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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:27 PM
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Bush unemployment below average for past 30 years.
Someone took 30 yearly averages and averaged them.

I just got rich. Bill Gates and I averaged our wealth.

Cannot average averages.

What percent of population is employed?

What percent is unemployed?

What is weekly wage Down under Bush.

President Clinton submitted honest numbers for eight years.

He instructed his staff to use facts not baloney.

He never BS. He never bragged. When he presented a success he almost always said "But-that is not good enough more needs to be done"

Bush people just do not know how to be honest. So simple. They are arrogant and full up with themselves. Say anything, Just repeat it often enough.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:29 PM
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1. Which jobless figure?
The totally phoney 5.4% one? Or the more realistic 10%+ one? Well sure...pretty bad, though, that even using fake numbers he has to further fudge them using the bullshit averaging.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:39 PM
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2. It's Utter Nonsense
This is fun with statistics. The current UE value is 1 standard deviation above the mean of the last 30 years. There is no disputing that fact. One can average things if one wishes to develop predicted curves for the near future. But, this information is flat out wrong!

Also, there is an Employment Saturation Index. This is the the number of full time workers (divided by the total number of employable people), multiplied by the median national household income of the middle 95% of households. (This value is corrected for people on unemployment those on disability.) So, it indicates the near future buying power of the american consumer which is nearly 70% of nominal GDP. It's more than just measuring who has a job, but how well that job supports continuing economic growth.

This value is at the lowest point since 1978. Trust me on this, the current situation is NOT above average.
The Professor
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:30 PM
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9. Thanks Professor
that's very useful information......
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:40 PM
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3. But we have more Americans working now then we did in 1950.
;-)
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:44 PM
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4. How about someone here telling us--
what the numbers are if reported in the same way Clinton (for example) would have reported them.

Use his stats and rates and give us the number.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:45 PM
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5. A breathtaking lie
Among the other truths omitted is the fact that unemployment caluclations changed in 1991 (?) which the overall result was an immediate drop in the unemployment number.

So, Emperor Bunnypants*, lying AGAIN (has he told the truth ANY other time besides when he wished to be a dicator, "Kidding on the square"?) omits the fact that 70% of his "sample years" were calculated differently which resulkted at a higher rate.

If one considers "rate of lies" then this Imperial Cabal ranks up there with Hitler and Stalin undoubtedly.

But they ARE, for the moment, "kinder and genler" so while they DO lie as frequently as Hitler and Stalin, they have not yet murdered as many people.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:47 PM
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6. Spouting Lies
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 01:48 PM
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7. Republicans have held the White House for 18 of the last 30 years...
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 01:49 PM by JavaJive
so no wonder unemployment has been high.   There was a pretty long stretch during the Reagan administration when it was more than 10%.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 02:07 PM
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8. People fall off the edge of the statistics
They go in business for themselves. They go bankrupt. They are Homeless. They move back in with their parents. They work in the underground economy.

But they are not "Unemployed"
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