STERN blasted Clear Channel and Bush big time- full summary!

[Room101]

I will combine the various snippets of Howard blasting BFEE on today’s show. This is from http://www.marksfriggin.com/news.htm#wed


Howard said that there are reporters saying that this had nothing to do with what they were saying on the air, it all had to do with him saying they have to vote President Bush out of office. He said that Clear Channel has apparently gotten rid of anyone who says anything about getting Bush out of office. Howard said that he did say something about anal sex on the air last Tuesday but that's not why he was thrown off the air. He said that the FCC had nothing on him then.


Howard said he did some research on Clear Channel and their ties to George W. Bush. He said that he found out stuff about this guy Tom Hicks from Clear Channel and how they've had a lot to do with defending Bush. They banned the Dixie Chicks albums from all of their stations after they spoke out against Bush. There were other things that Howard read about the company. He had an article about how they hired this guy Michael Savage after he called a caller a Sodomite and hoped that he'd get AIDS and die. They had no problem hiring him for some reason.

Howard read another article (by Maureen Farrell of US News) about how much power he has and how Bush could lose the election after all of this stuff. Howard read that he had spoken out against Bush just 4 days before Clear Channel took him off the air. The reporter pointed out some of the stuff that Clear Channel has done over the years censoring people who speak out against Bush and all of that. Howard said he hates saying stuff like that because it sounds crazy. Howard read a couple of other things that show that Clear Channel just boots people from their company if they speak out against Bush.

Howard continued to read stories about Clear Channel and what other people are saying about the whole thing. Howard also pointed out that the FCC is run by Colin Powell's son and Clear Channel is tied to Bush. Howard said that he's heard that there is a case being prepared against him to get him kicked off of all of the Viacom stations. He said it's in the works so his days are numbered. Howard spoke out against Bush even more and said that this is the scariest thing ever and Bush has to be voted out of office. He said that even though we're still hearing the show now, it's just a matter of weeks before the FCC comes up with a list of things he's said that will force his company to fire him.

Howard said he had a lot more to read about this whole thing. He pointed out that John Kerry isn't saying anything in his favor either but it's better him than Bush. He said he didn't want to bore people with all of this stuff but it's really pissing him off. He said that he's going down in flames and he wants people to know why that is. Robin wondered if the press is going to pick up on this stuff and let people know. Howard said they'll just ignore it and laugh when they bring the story up in the news.

A listener called in and said that he used to work for Clear Channel and spoke out against Bush after the election and they eventually fired him and black listed him in every market. Howard said he would have called him crazy years ago but now he knows better. Howard said he hopes that John Kerry can continue and fight the good fight. He said he hopes he can win because that's his only hope. Howard said he can't believe that he can't change his opinion about who he wants to vote for without getting kicked off the air.

Howard had Nick Di Paolo come in after the phone call. He and Nick spent a minute talking about the whole censorship thing. Nick said it's not all republicans that are the root cause of this stuff. Howard said that's true but right now the Bush administration is causing him problems and he can't vote for him again. He said that he's too angry. Nick said he didn't know that Howard had changed his mind about Bush before all of the Clear Channel stuff went down. Howard told Nick why he changed his tune and what that was all about.

Howard told Nick that it was sickening to him that Bush wasn't truthful about avoiding the Viet Nam war. He said that there were a bunch of other things that turned him off to the guy. Nick has his own issues and thinks that things have gotten a little too liberal lately so he can't be against Bush completely.

[peacetalksforall]

1. I think Stern is scum, but I think they've picked the wrong guy

and that is good. I hope he fights and educates and does it professionally.

We are going backwards folks in our right to speak. Maybe someone I think is scum will do some good.

[pocoloco]

35. scum

edited to keep from getting another friggin warning

[Must_B_Free]

62. Told Ya So

knew right away the real reason - as many of us did.

But the other side is that I think the Passion is tied in. This film hopefully has triggered the divorce of right wing Christians and right wing Jews.

[CalebHayes]

2. I wrote about this in my blog...

http://anti-bush.blogspot.com

[skypilot]

3. Nick Di Paolo

I saw this guy on "Tough Crowd" last night at a bar. The TVs volume was turned down so that people could play the juke box but I could tell just by looking at him that he was a RW asshole. Am I wrong?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. Tough Crowd is "Goebbells TV"

:puke:

[skypilot]

7. Believe me, I can tell...

...even with the volume turned down.

[Catholic Sensation]

8. he said he's not voting for bush

if that means anything. He won an Emmy writing for Chris Rock, so he's not an asshole.

[Dedalus]

16. "Tough Crowd"

Most of the people on that show seem like their bread and butter is being "regular guy" comedians--21st century Andrew Dice Clays. Sure, this leads to sexist and homphobic jokes, but then again they don't like religious people or rich people either. The aesthetic of that show is a valuable thing to study: Not terribly socially progressive, but this is due to lack of education rather than organized ideology; against rich people, but also against know-it-all academic types (us). In other words: They are the American swing voter.

[skypilot]

29. If Di Paulo thinks that...

...things have gotten too liberal lately I'd really wonder which way he'd swing. I have noticed the set on which the show takes place:golf clubs, pool table, beer steins (sp?), etc. It kind of annoys me. Too much masculine posturing.

[sendero]

17. Not only is he...

... a RW asshole, he's as dumb as a box of rocks as well. Stern playfully laid most of his points to rest. :)

[Ksec]

55. Depaolo

Hes the kind of guy who ignores facts because facts are for gays and sissy boys. He Is a right wing meathead whos humor is in his stupidity.

[libview]

4. Stern is a discusting pig

who cares what happens to that pervert asshole.

[ronnykmarshall]

5. At least he's speaking out.

He's talking about things that we've known all along, but the mainstream press won't touch.

Good for him.

[toddzilla]

11. there are plenty of complete imbeciles that listen to him..

if we get them to vote dem, who gives a shit? a vote is a vote. I agree, he's the wrong person to mess with, an egotistical media whore with TONS of listeners. I don't like him at all, but it's not like he's some progressive liberal, he just doesn't like being pushed around on a free speech issue.

[Dedalus]

9. Stern

I don't think everything Stern says is hilarious, and sure he offends me sometimes, but in the big picture, any enemy of the religious right is a friend of mine, especially when he has more influence with the working class than any of us could ever hope to have. Better to have someone in that position sticking bologna to women's butts than waving the Bible.

[montanacowboy]

10. Politics make strange bedfellows,

and remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend - don't discount anyone who can help our cause - hold your fire

[stepnw1f]

14. I do and so should...

anybody who cares about censorship and democracy.

[Room101]

18. libview - Your emotions are overshadowing your rational

"Stern is a disgusting pig" you state the obvious with a sense of discovery.

"who cares what happens to that pervert asshole."
This is bigger than Stern its about free speech.

Translation- who cares what happens to freedom of speech.
Howard today libview tomorrow. I don't understand how you choose to look through the emotional tunnel instead of the rational birds eye view. :shrug:

Howard the disgusting pig reaches the bewildered herd and his opinion carries weight with them. He is telling millions of listeners who don’t read or do research to vote out BUSH.

[DrWeird]

19. Good americans.

Because he's a lot like Larry Flynt.

[maveric]

21. Cant you see that its not about Him?

Its about censorship. he spoke badly of the Fuehrer and was censored for it. Stern is an asshole AFAIC but this is bigger than that. Its facism.

[LoZoccolo]

30. Bababooey is probably against this as well!

You can support him instead!

[OneTwentyoNine]

31. It isn't about Stern,its about Nazi controlled airwaves...

Just as soon as CC cans several other em "potty mouths" I'll change my opinion and agree that it was just about Stern and his mouth.

Fact is CC has people on their stations that are as bad as Stern if not worse--Does Michael Savage and his hate filled message ring a bell? This isn't about Stern and six stations,its about controlling who says what about Republican leaders and corporate greed.

David

[frylock]

33. first they came for stern, and i didn't voice opposition cuz i'm not a fan

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller

[Emboldened Chimp]

47. If you believe in democracy, you'd care

This is strictly a first amendemnt issue. Who cares whether you like the guy or not? You should support his right to say what he wants. If you don't like him, don't listen. I hate Rush and all he stands for, but I respect his right to say what he wants. If people want to listen to that swill, that's their problem. Since I hate what he says, I don't listen. Howard may be a great many things, scumbag included, but that doesn't mean he should be ousted from radio for saying what's on his mind, especially when he expressed a political opinion. Scare times, indeed.

[pacifictiger]

12. if only he wasn't so foul mouthed

he would have more credibility with mainstream america.

[Dedalus]

20. mainstream?

Who do you think "mainstream America" is, anyway? He has a lot more credibility with them than people like us do, that's for sure.

[Sandpiper]

24. Stern offends the bluenoses

But he already has plenty of credibility with mainstream America. He has the number one syndicated radio show in the entire country. More listeners than Rush or Hannity.

[belle]

34. Stern IS mainstream America, like it or not

a big chunk of it, anyway. Here's hoping they did, indeed, pick on the wrong guy this time.

[SaintLouisBlues]

45. You got it, belle. Stern's demographic is white guys

Whites guys are the Repukes number one demographic, voting for them 70% of the time.

These Stern bashers need to keep their eyes on the prize.

[sadiesworld]

13. I figured that Stern would backpedal and play nice in order

to get back in Clear Channel's good graces. I haven't had alot of use for him in the past, but he is reaching an audience we otherwise wouldn't have a shot at. Give'm hell Howard!

[crushbush04]

15. Ha Ha

Stern is now the messiah for free speech.

Stern is doing political research.

What a wimpy whiny little man he is.

I never used to think this because I thought he was sometimes very funny but he is really a total fraud.

[info being]

28. We should all be doing political research...yourself included

[Missy Vixen]

22. Whatever you might think of Howard Stern

he's now standing up and making himself heard. We need to support him and his efforts.

>He said that Clear Channel has apparently gotten rid of anyone who says anything about getting Bush out of office.<

If this doesn't chill your blood, you're not listening.

I'm sending him a fax. Every city that Howard Stern broadcasts from (and even those that are now "suspended") need to start registering voters. They also need to identify how many listeners are already registered, and urge them to vote as well.

I'm not crazy about everything I hear on his show, either, but when anyone that criticizes * finds themselves out of a job, we all have to fight back. If there is nothing but deafening silence, those who run the media in our country will think that silence means assent, and they will get bolder.

Julie

[info being]

26. Its amazing you should even have to say that

I can't believe so many at DU don't seem to share your view.

[Carni]

27. I agree 100%

And I sent his people an email with some research tid-bits to the Stern website earlier.

I personally find his show offensive at times... but his suspension from CC is more the result of his bush bashing than it is vile remarks from guest callers, racial remarks or obscenity laws. JMHO

[Carni]

23. I heard it this morning

Stern blasted bush as did his side kick, Robin.


That Nick whatever his name is, is an unmitigated ass and they actually yelled him down about bush at one point.


I am not a fan of Stern's show but I will give the guy credit he's doing the research now and he's standing up to the bush reich.


I wish the hell he had done this 4 years ago!

[info being]

25. The poor guy didn't know what he was getting into...bad-mounthing *

Bush is the best thing that ever happened to the Progressive cause. He's waking up a lot of people to the systemic problems in this country.

[pa28]

32. Where is Limbaugh on this?

A week ago he was complaining about the decency crackdown spilling into a Democratic administration and then being used to limit conservative speech on the radio. "I'm in the free speech business." he said, "so I'm concerned."

[crushbush04]

36. Can anyone here

state why exactly Stern was suspended. What happened?

What did he do that specific morning that was so offensive?

[Room101]

37. crushbush04- CC has not giving a specific answer... /nt

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[crushbush04]

38. I asked even though

I knew the answer

I have a feeling some people here have no idea who or what they are defending

What happened was during a conversation with the guy who made the Paris hilton sex tape a caller asked if he had ever had sex with a nigger.

This made it on the air. The major contention is that this could have been easily bleeped by using the 5 second delay, but was allowed to get on the air due to negligence on the part of the host.

Bear in mind he has only been suspended, not fired.

Despite all his millions and noteriety. He is truly a whiny fool.

So dont fall for his free speech crap

[morgan2]

40. ya cause nigger is never broadcast on the air

in 50% of rap songs. The guy said it, he was hung up on, it wasn't bleeped. Shit happens, fine him and be done with it. The point is that Clear Channel can cut someone out of so many markets if they don't like them. This is what happens with consolidation. They could do it to someone over whatever they want.

[crushbush04]

43. Just wanted to know

where anybody defending our Messiah Stern was coming from.

I think this is the wrong case to defend folks it is not a free speech issue. This is a employee employer dispute.

Clear channel has a right to suspend or fine who they want. Its their channel. I couldnt speak like that in front of my boss without suffering serious consequences. Why should Messiah Stern be exempt?

I actually think since Clear Channel may sustain major losses in revenue by dropping a significant radio personality like Messiah Stern they deserve some applause for doing the principled thing.

By the way is this language is being used all the time on the air? What radio stations are you listening to? Fill us in on where we could find these enlightened stations

And I am glad to see you think since some idiots are using nigger all the time that its fine.

[bobbyboucher]

46. So, Stern is at fault because he didn't "bleep it"?

Not the producer, or some boardman, or soundman? Give it a rest. Your "Clear Channel employee issue" is just plain repub blather. It is more than that and you know it.

The Bush criticism stuff is just a coincidence. Yeah, right. When are you going to bust out the "tinfoil hat" or "conspiracy theory" stand-bys? I can feel them coming.

And what's with this "Messiah" stuff? That is just plain made of straw.

Nice going.

[crushbush04]

57. Messiah because

he is now projecting himself as the savior of free speech. So I think we should give him a title deserving of a true savior. Hence Messiah Stern.

However, since he is also now dong investigative research I considered other appropriate titles. The top four were Matlock Stern, Woodward and Bernstein Stern, Popeye Doyle Stern or my personal favorite Kojack Stern.

Can anybody come up with any more?

[crushbush04]

61. How about..

Mike Wallace Stern

Sixty Minutes Stern

Dateline Stern

48 Hours Stern

etc. etc. Any of those tickle your fancy?

[scottxyz]

48. The "N" word is likely a dodge by Clear Channel

Consider this:

- Other Clear Channel hosts are regularly JUST AS OFFENSIVE (eg, Michael Savage telling a caller who was gay to "get AIDS and die!")

- Howard's show has been using profanity (withing FCC rules) and controversial parodies of racist/sexist speech for YEARS while Clear Channel profited

- The week Howard's caller used the "N" word was the week when Howard came out against Bush.

- The caller could have been a plant.

Howard says a LOT of things on his show - and Clear Channel is mostly likely lying about the real reason they pulled him.


Look at it this way: If the real reason Clear Channel pulled Howard was because he started criticizing "their" candidate - would they admit it, or would they use a distraction (like this "N" word controversy)?

You've got to be a LOT more sophisticated in analysing how dirty the right-wing fights, crushbush04.

[americanstranger]

50. You don't listen to radio much, do you?

Every market has its own Howard Stern. Are you honestly telling us that wherever you live, they don't have a shock jock/morning crew that gets rude?

All the condescension you can muster doesn't change the fact that Clear channel hired the guy, let him do his thing for years, and the week he decides to tell his listeners that Bush needs to be voted out, he's suspended by a chain that's run by a group of Bush Rangers.

Coincidence is common where you live as well, I take it.

-as

[crushbush04]

56. I live in NYC

Every morning crew gets rude. Starr and Buckwild are no longer on the air in NYC. opie and anthony got fired over a St Patricks sexcapade. So there is precedence.

Is there a conspiracy to get Messiah Stern off the air? Could be. But I think if there was no Janet Jackson incident none of this would have happened.

I listen to Imus mostly, Stern sometimes and sometimes to Mr Limbaugh. They can be very funny in their own way and there a certain level of entertainment involved in all three. Ironically the three most popular radio hosts all hate each other.

Rush is fat bastard. Imus is a miserable old jerk. I really think Stern is a thin-skinned little man. A small man. A whiny self-serving individual who at times is very funny.

The fact that I choose not to fight on his side says less about my stance on free speech than it does about how much defending he really needs. He needs about as much help from me, or anyone in this chatroom, as Rush needs in his drug case.

If I truly felt Messiah Stern was being persecuted I would swallow my true feelings and say something in support. He is not being persecuted.

The only thing that can remove Stern off the air permanenly is bad ratings. And its not going to happen. So chill out.

[Carni]

51. Yeah, well...

Stern (crude as he may be) didn't make the remark a caller did.


There are about five right winged groups that have been just chomping at the bit to pull him and others off the air for months.

Do a google on the "American Family Association," "Parents television council," or onemillionmoms.com...the religious right has just been waiting for this type of an opportunity and who's to say they didn't help it along?

I know how these bastards operate...it would not surprise me in the least if these whacko groups have been calling the Stern show in mass trying to slip in something truly over the top without getting bleeped. (It wouldn't be the first time they pulled a covert op to prove their point and get their way.)

Who was the caller?

Has anyone followed up on the identity of that caller?

Furthermore why is Limbecile still able to make thinly veiled racial slurs whenever the mood strikes him?

Not to mention the hiring of Savage by CC.

[DrWeird]

41. But Stern hung up on the guy.

I was under the impression that it was the technician's responsibility to hit the delay button. Anway, you're blaming him for something he didn't even say.

Why are you asking leading questions?

[crushbush04]

44. LOL why are you

asking me questions about me asking leading questions?

[Kinkistyle]

49. A-hyuk you're such a tricky-dick.

Oh gosh you caught us with your tricky facetious question, how clever!

Nigger is not an indecent or restricted word. If they decided that saying "nigger" was enough to get someone thrown off the air, a lot of rappers would have trouble getting their records played! Yeah, its offensive, but Howard cut the guy off. And apparently, bashing Bush is now being "Whiny". Wow, go figure! Guess we are ALL whiny on this forum then!

[crushbush04]

63. The word nigger

in rap records is bleeped on NYC radio.

If you dont think Kojack Stern is a whiny little man then, hey, what can I say.

Popeye Doyle Stern bashing Bush is actually not the whiny part. Thats the good that will eventually come out of this.

60 Minutes Stern now doing his Matlock-type research about clear channel then squealing like a stuck pig about someone he still is in business with is classic dictionary defined whining.

You really dont think nigger is an indecent word? OK. I invite all my white brothers and sisters to now use this as their official way of adressing fellow brothers and sisters of African descent.

Yes, and while adressing them using the newly official Nigger title feel free to add porch monkey, chicken wing and watermelon to your vernacular when refering to african americans. So there is no reason to feel hampered by just using the word nigger.

The reaction you will recieve will be one of such joy and affection.

I am sure that great big hug around neck will be one of great affection and joy.

[MrSlayer]

39. Stern Rules.

I'm glad he's finally come around on the Chimp. It was sickening listening to him cheer on the war but now he's on the right track again. It's amazing that so many people here hate him when he's been a champion for gay marriage, free speech, the legalization of marijuana and is totally opposed to the religious right asswipes. He's fuckin funny to boot.

[Carni]

53. Truthfully I would like to...

Kick Howard in the butt and wash his mouth out with soap half the time... but on the other hand no one is making me listen to him!

I do think the man is wasting his talents talking about women's boobs, farting etc etc

On the occasions when he actually gets serious about an issue he's pretty persuasive.

[maggrwaggr]

42. wow, I'm rooting for Howard Stern AND Pat Buchanan

has the world gone nuts or what?

go Howard!

[rocktivity]

52. If Howard wants to do "research," why don't we give him a few leads?

His e-mail is [e-mail]. I'm sure he'd appreciate our suggestions of books and Web site he could consult!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Ksec]

54. Stern can cause a WHOLE trainload of shat for these people

They messed with the wrong dude IMO.

[Buns_of_Fire]

58. Okay, based on some of the above responses, be it so stipulated that...

Howard is a scummy, misogynistic, disgusting, egotistical, perverted, baloney butt-plastering, funny/unfunny media whore asshole pig.

But (for the time being, anyway), he's our scummy, misogynistic, disgusting, egotistical, perverted, baloney butt-plastering, funny/unfunny media whore asshole pig. With a big audience.

I'll take my allies wherever I find them. :-) Priority One = Boosh Be Gone.

[Ksec]

59. The enemy of my enemy is my freind

[Ksec]

60. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Whahapend ? Did I fall into a alternate universe and get sucked into a black hole?