Gary Bauer: Homosexuality more deadly than smoking

[Cannikin]

Bauer: "More importantly, however, the government has an obligation to promote public policy that is best for the general welfare and to discriminate against behaviors that adversely impact society and public health. Tobacco use is heavily regulated by the state and smoking is strongly discouraged. A major study conducted by Oxford University demonstrated that homosexual conduct is three times more deadly than smoking. Homosexual behavior is fraught with adverse health affects. Again, this is not opinion, but documented medical fact. "


Who IS this Bauer person and what influence does he have? He kind of sounds like a WACK-JOB to me!

I picked up this quote elsewhere:
"He is now very much the voice of the Christian right wing. He was threatening to take his toys and go home if Bush didn't come out in favor of the FMA or an equivalent amendment."

As a political newbie, I'd heard his name before, but I dont know who he is.

[truhavoc]

1. Didn't he run for president a few years back? n/t

[meegbear]

8. Yes ...

there was a paper in Boston, "Editorial Humor" that would show editorial cartoons from around the world. They had an essay contest: "If you were to be stuck on a desert island with one of the presidential candidates, who would it be and why"?

The winning entry wrote: "I'd want to be with Gary Bauer. He's small, so if I needed to, I could overpower him and eat him."

[meegbear]

2. He's a voice of the Christian Right ...

he ran for President back in 2000. He's just a blip on the radar.

[seabeyond]

3. and i just read

and article on his people quitting cause he was having an affair with some worker woman of his. hmmmmmm

[underpants]

4. Bauer's a freak

http://www.realchange.org/bauer.htm

[skypilot]

36. "...a cross between a gay Grinch and Mr. Bean."

LOL!!That is so on the nose.

[eileen_d]

5. If you can stomach it, here's his web site

http://www.ouramericanvalues.org/

Those ain't MY American values, you little shitstick! :puke:

[BiggJawn]

37. "Appoint Judges who know the Laws of your God"

Did you see THAT one? I take that to mean that Alan Greenspan and Bob Brinker should be judges, since they both know something about MONEY....

I'd rather have a Judge who was conversant in the laws of the Land and the Constitution...
But that's just the way I am.

[Bluzmann57]

6. If memory serves

I believe that he made an aborted run for the presidency in '92. And as far as Homosexuality being more dangerous than cigarette smoking, well, chances are that if a homosexual dies of lung cancer, then he or she was a smoker. If a homosexual gets aids, then perhaps they were promiscuous, perhaps they contracted it from somewhere else. Sometimes I think that all the money that was spent on sending these wackos to college was totally wasted, because they didn't seem to learn anything.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. Gee, Ya Think!!!

You hit on one of my favorite lines! I also look at these buffoons and suggest that whatever college granted them a degree should have their accreditions revoked, because they're obviously doing something wrong. If an idiot like Bauer got a college degree, it's obviously too easy to get through college.
The Professor

[DenverDem]

7. Bauer=Flamingly latent

Think Roy Cohn, J. Edgar Hoover.

[Terran]

11. totally agree

I have always thought Gary Bauer was a closet case; my gaydar went off like a siren the first time I heard him speak. He's nothing but a sick little self-hating scumbag.

[Rockholm]

19. Total Closet Case...

All of these right-wing homophobes are REPRESSED queens. Absolutely pathetic. Hey Gary, believing your crap is deadlier than smoking.

[jmags]

9. Here is the reply by the scientists who drafted the report

Bauer cited: http://ije.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/6/1499

[Cannikin]

16. Thank you for that!

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. In other words

(a) the data for the life expectancy is now seriously out of date, due to advances in in AIDS treatment
(b) because the spread of AIDS was due to promiscuity, gay marriages will be a valuable tool in increasing stable homosexual relationships, decreasing promiscuity, and thus increasing public health. Has anyone pointed this out to Bauer?

[TreasonousBastard]

29. What possible use would that be...

since the little pantload has no interest in truth-- only in pushing his agenda.

Before reading much about the report, it seemed obvious that promiscuous bisexuals would be transmitting AIDS and STDs more widely than other groups and have severe health problems.

The point is about promiscuous bisexuals who don't practice safe sex. Somewhat more dangerous than promiscuous heterosexuals who don't practice safe sex, but pretty much the same public health problem.

But it's a public health problem, not a springboard for gay bashing.

And, yeah, monogamous homosexual couples have little or no chance of catching or spreading any of this. Gay marriage for the public good.

[kayell]

10. Only if you get too close to a RW nutjob with a baseball bat

putz

Pronunciation: pŭts
Noun 1. putz - (Yiddish) a fool; an idiot
Yiddish - a dialect of High German including some Hebrew and other words; spoken in Europe as a vernacular by many Jews; written in the Hebrew script
fool, muggins, saphead, tomfool, sap - a person who lacks good judgment
SEE: Gary Bauer

2. putz - obscene terms for penis
pecker, cock, dick, peter, prick, tool, shaft
penis, phallus, member - the male organ of copulation (`member' is a euphemism)
dirty word, vulgarism, obscenity - an offensive or indecent word or phrase
SEE: Gary Bauer

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

25. schlappschwanz works, too

schlappschwanz = weak dick

[leodem]

12. Didn't he serve in Reagan's Admin.?

I remember seeing him on Buchanan and Press arguing about gay marriage. I actually think Ron Reagan Jr. flamed him too when he was filling in for Press one time.

[Hamlette]

13. idiot

"Tobacco use is heavily regulated by the state and smoking is strongly discouraged."

Yeah, but it ain't illegal and smokers can marry.

The only argument these people have is "the bible tells me so" and they can't say that out loud which causes them to sound absolutely ridiculous.

[kodi]

14. josh marshall deconstructs homophobe bauer's health arguement here

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_02_22.html#002613

seems like the health data would indicate that we should all become lesbians.

[kayell]

30. There are gender requirements, but if you are qualified

you can always apply at the recruitment center. More info here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1184066

Gary Bauer could at least try to be amusing like Paul Cameron.

[thebaghwan]

15. I do believe that Bauer is a former head of the Christian Coalition.

Another fucking r/w nut. Where do these people get their views? Did anybody see Sandy Rios of Concerned Women for America last night on Bill Maher? Her take on gay marriage was that the gays are destroying our civilization just as they were responsible for the fall of the Roman Empire. My whole family was ROTFLOAO, but it really is a shame these people have such hatred and dread.

[Cannikin]

17. jmags reply above is a must read......

He linked the report from the scientists who did the study. They said their study was NOT meant to be used in a political way like that and the facts stated by Bauer were SEVERELY distorted.

[wellstone_democrat]

18. Does this mean I don't have to quit!

Finally, this guy said something nuts that actually gives me an excuse for something.

But, of course, he's still one flaming nutball.

[progressiverealist]

20. Here's an idea Gary: RUN FOR PRESIDENT -

You can run on the new Christian Party ticket with Pat Robertson as your running mate. I'll bet you could even win a state or two in the bible belt.

[foreigncorrespondent]

21. Cannikin...

...do a search on "Gary Bauer" + "Christian Reconstructionism" over at google and begin reading, if you really want to learn some stuff, that'll scare the crap out of you.

I started learning about this stuff last year, and it scares the crap out of me. :scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:

[Skittles]

23. SECOND-HAND HOMOSEXUALITY IS A THREAT

YES INDEED.

[indepat]

24. No policy promoted by the likes of Bauer is good for the general

welfare: nothing neocons do is good for the general welfare, all they do is for the welfare of wealthy patrons, including large corporations, and promote hate and divisiveness.

[Touchdown]

26. His homeworld got tired of him.

They forgot E.T....they deliberately left Gary Bauer here....whose eyes are buggier than E.T.'s like this...:silly:

[Cappadonna]

27. Makes we wonder why I still go to church::

I've met real conservatives who aren't keen on homosexuality-- but they total think about it on religious principles. They do not start pulling illogical bullshit out of their asses. Homosexuality more deadly than smoking?! Last time I checked, you can't become gay by just hanging out with gay people. Most of the guys I hung out with in the dorm were gay, and I didn't suddenly get the urge to wear leather pants or listen to Fiona Apple. I lived next door to a gay couple in college. I didn't worry about second hand blue balls or gag reflux. However, we do have lots of emphesema & lung cancer in the fam b/c over half of my relatives smoke.


I don't mean to be vulgar or childish, but this is the only way to bear in mind how DUMB this statement is. Going by this numbnut's logic, being Black is a more deadly than a crack pipe. Fuck man, I need to cash my Social Security now!!!! :eyes:

[opihimoimoi]

34. A Fruit cake if there ever was one . He woulda been Prez if he

didn't fall off the stage while flipping flapjacks during the 2000 campaign.

[bobbieinok]

31. head of Family Research Council and Campaign for

Working Families

domestic policy advisor to Raygun

[WoodrowFan]

32. I see where this started..

I can see wher ehis confusion began. Aren't cigarettes called "fags" in Britain? Well, he obviously saw a British study about the health danger of "fags" and well, he misunderstood!

[OneTwentyoNine]

33. Just LOOKING at Bauer is deadly,even if you don't know what he stands for.

He's such a far right religious wacko-o I can't even believe the cable news channels will give him air time.

David

[damnyankee2601]

35. Could some rabid Act-Upper please...

...stick that ferret-faced pus bucket with a dirty needle?

[oneighty]

38. I Recall

Gary telling a story about his ex-marine father sitting at the table crying because of lack of job or some such. He said it profoundly affected his life to see his father cry. If I were Gary's father I would cry too.

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