Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Now that Aristide is gone will we see a huge increase in Crack Cocaine

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:53 PM
Original message
Now that Aristide is gone will we see a huge increase in Crack Cocaine
in our inner cities. I think Bush* wants to redo everything his daddy and Reagan did so I fully expect Cocaine to be flowing once more in huge quantities. Especially Crack Cocaine in the inner cities. It is easy money for the street youth and also puts them away on felony charges when they get caught. that means that they are in jail for a long time and then lose voting rights when they finally get out. Bush* doesn't ever plan on having the people decide Democracy in America like they did in Haiti.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 06:55 PM
Response to Original message
1. That's true...Bushevik Haiti was a big drug port
I have no doubt some of that good CIA coke moved through there back in the days when Ollie North was doing the pushing.

So, yet another side "benefit" for the Busheviks. They can revamp their 1980s program to flood African-American comunities with Crack.

Totalitarian Scum like the Busheviks wouldn't hesitate for a second to do this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I'm convinced the BFEE cartel is the biggest drug ring ever.
I like to say that's why G.H.W. Bush's nickname is "Poppy."

(I know that's really not the reason, but I do like saying it.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
18. Maybe not the Biggest, but surely in the "Dealer 500"
Probably #2 or #3.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. I'm including the CIA as part of the BFEE cartel (makes sense to me)
So who do you think is #1?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
3. reading this is like someone kicking you in the teeth
this is my #1 fury towards these POS war criminals.

this will not stand.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:11 PM
Response to Original message
4. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Excuse me?
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 08:19 PM by Wonk
http://www.google.com/search?q=haiti+cocaine

on edit:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/il09_schakowsky/pr2_29_2004haiti.html

(snip)

The public face of the rebel army is the smile of Mr. Guy Phillipe.  He is suspected by both Haitian and United States officials of cocaine trafficking...Mr. Phillipe has few democratic credentials. 
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libview Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. I didn't see anything about this.........
So, yet another side "benefit" for the Busheviks. They can revamp their 1980s program to flood African-American comunities with Crack.

this kind of crap doesn't help.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Here you go
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
libview Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. OK, you win. I didn't realize you had rock solid proof like that !
Why isn't the national media all over this? Doesn't Dan Rather read the Guerrilla news? Why isn't Kerry talking about this?
you are a genius
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. "Why isn't the national media all over this?"
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 08:51 PM by Minstrel Boy
It was, sorta, kinda. But you know how goes with the US mainstream media. Don't you?

"Dan Rather"? Well, don't expect too much from him. He's too afraid of being "necklaced".
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=220&row=1

Iran/Contra, and the CIA's protected trade in crack cocaine, was no fantasy. Ever heard of the Kerry Report? As in, John Kerry? Then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney called him a "conspiracy theorist" too.

Just a few books you may want to read to shape an informed opinion:
The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade by Alfred McCoy
Cocaine Politics by Peter Dale Scott
Dark Alliance by Gary Web
White Out by Cockburn and St Clair
The Big White Lie by Michael Levine
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 02:17 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. kick
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 02:32 AM by Wonk
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. The media? Very funny.
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 12:27 PM by gandalf
Since years the media could have published the fact that the "war on drugs" has similarities to the "war on terror" and is not intended to be won. Read the chapter of Michael Levine in the book my sig line points to, or read it online:
http://www.expertwitnessradio.org/essays/e6.htm

The media sells us everything but the truth on drugs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #5
25. And the DEA mysteriously dropped the investigation..
when Phillipe entered the Dom. Rep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:18 PM
Response to Original message
7. Oh yeah
Just like the heroin increased after the taliban fell. Bushco is without a doubt "the kingpin" of the world. Absolutely NO doubt about that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:22 PM
Response to Original message
9. It will be a two-prong drug attack...
Don't forget the BFEE Afghan heroin warehouses are bursting at the seams and should hit the streets soon. I read in the news yesterday that the State Department is ratcheting up the North Korea drug connection dialog 'The United States said for the first time on Monday that it believes it is "highly likely" North Korea traffics in illegal drugs as a matter of state policy.' I think the story is mostly subterfuge. Yes, I believe they deal in drugs but I don't think they have the ability to saturate or control the market. This dialog has another intention.

I strongly believe the BFEE is setting up North Korea to be the patsy when they start dumping the new and improved crop of Afghan Heroin on the west coast of the good 'ole USA. It's kind of a twofer, you know, villify the enemy (North Korea) and rake in the dough at the same time.

It will be interesting to hear the street story associated with the suddenly plentiful supply of super cheap heroin when it splashes.

All delivered with the BFEE good housekeeping seal of approval.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
11. The CIA-Haitian drug connection
A couple of articles here from 1993, after Aristide was deposed by drug-running thug Raul Cedras:

WHAT'S BEHIND WASHINGTON'S SILENCE ON HAITI DRUG CONNECTION?
by Dennis Bernstein; Pacific News Service, 10/20/93

At stake in the U.S. confrontation with the Haitian military regime is a cocaine smuggling operation that earns millions of dollars for Haitian military officials while dumping tons of the deadly white powder on American streets. Yet while the country debates the merits of armed intervention in Haiti, the Clinton administration has remained mum on the Haitian "drug connection."

A confidential report by the Drug Enforcement Agency obtained by Pacific News Service describes Haiti as "a major transshipment point for cocaine traffickers" funnelling drugs from Colombia and the Dominican Republic into the U.S.-with the knowledge and active involvement of high military officials and business elites.

MORE....


THE CIA'S HAITIAN CONNECTION
by Dennis Bernstein and Howard Levine; San Francisco Bay Guardian, 11/3/93

Confidential government documents obtained by the Bay Guardian show that the CIA helped establish and finance Haiti's powerful National Intelligence Service, which played a key role in the 1991 coup and continues to provide paramilitary muscle for the anti-Aristide dictatorship. As recently as February 1993, a confidential congressional report described the NIS as "working closely" with the CIA.

...

According to a Feb. 10, 1993, memo from one of Conyers' congressional staffers, a copy of which was obtained by the Bay Guardian, "the wholesale value of Haiti's drug industry on the U.S. market is now equal to $1 billion a year, which equals the entire revenue of Haiti's population of six million.

MORE...

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BER402A.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
13. Ah ha...no wonder
chimp wanted him out.:think:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
14. Follow the $$$$.
There is a profit to be made somewhere by the ruling class in this country. And don't get me wrong, there IS a ruling class in this country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. ruling class
there is a book "who's running america" or so.
I was very disappointed when I once looked at the amazon sales rank. Does not sell very well, this study (at least the latest edition).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:32 PM
Response to Original message
15. Great news for Bush
One, because they just love drug problems and poverty (it keeps the masses in check)

Two, because this will be a rerun of the eighties, and most GOPers who actually have money (unlike the GOPers of average wealth, aka idiots) will make a killing yet again in an orgy of greed and self-worship.

And, three, because Bush really likes cocaine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
19. Kick
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
21. thank you for starting this thread
people need to see the bigger picture


the crooks keep pardoning themselves, and keep coming back for more ... will find you "guilty", and, then, you issue the pardon ... and, then, we're both covered ... is any Iran-Contra participant serving time?

Poppy Bush's "War on Drugs" just keeps on bringing in the dough ... for the kingpins ... just imagine if that wealth was distributed and invested in ways to enrich our society, i.e., improving infrastructure
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
22. without demand, there is no supply
without artificiallly inflated prices, there is no incentive to trade illegal drugs

without illegality, there is no artificially inflated prices

the idea that suddenly more ppl will be on drugs because more are available is nonsense

anyone that wants drugs can get them RIGHT NOW, despite the mass amounts of $ and lives wasted on the war on drugs

drug use will not go up when more is available, it is all about the demand, if you squeeze supply, price goes up, incentive goes up, demand gets met

drug use will not go up (except for a quick spike due to the 'novelty' of legalization) when legalized, that is the argument that most right wingers have against legalization. DEMAND IS ALREADY BEING MET! changes in supply only affect the price and the amount of crime committed by addicts to meet that price
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. If I started selling Pot for $5.00 an ounce do you think sales would go up
You know what Crack is? It is the poor-mans free base of Cocaine and really is nothing but garbage but it is dirt cheap. Hence sales in the inner cities skyrocket.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. I have a question . . .
. . . re: "nothing but garbage". What do you mean by that statement? Just curious.

TYY
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
26. So a reason for toppling Aristide is to restart CIA drug dealing in Haiti?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Coincidence ~ I think not.
If all of a sudden large amounts of Crack or a similar substance shows up in the inner cities will it be just a coincidence? Pay attention to how this all plays out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 09:16 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC