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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 01:45 PM Original message |
Proposed Pregnancy Parking Placards Pooh-poohed |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not to mention |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Exactly... Diabetes in Pregnancy rates are up 35% |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. letting pregnant women park closer to the door is somehow bad? |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Yes, it's equivalent to giving a cardiac patient a handicapped space |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Perhaps Where You Live -- |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
104. Having a toddler is more of a hassle than being pregnant |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. The diabetes argument is bunk |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Ahhmmmm. Type II diabetes is DEFINITELY linked to obesity.... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. LINK, not cause |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I certainly do not have any money making interest |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Key word "may". Results, "inconclusive" |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Umm. and when someone says they work in the field |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I am a salaried employee |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. As I'm sure |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. it doesn't work that way.... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Ah, yes, the experts |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You did attack me |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I spoke ONLY to gestational diabetes... Certainly not to all diabetes |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. And your argument has degenerated to the obvious |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I hear in your post... |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. one more, just for good measure |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. From your own article: |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You come back to link |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I use terms like "link and correlation and risk factors," because these |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Link, correlation, and risk factors |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Link, correlation, and risk factors are epidmemiological terms. |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. They all point to one thing regardless |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. I call BS |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Deleted message |
hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
96. You say "care to join the bully in her disinformation?" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Deleted message |
bearfartinthewoods (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. speaking of the degenerator.......do you have a mirror? |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Do you? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. Heh. From another who knows.... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. i think diabetes rates are up for ALL people |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Do two googles |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
105. thanks for the heads up |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. Gotta tell ya, pregnancy sucks, I'm sick of people saying how |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Several Shopping Malls and Grocery Stores |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Goodness, no |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. You know I've never seen more than 20% of the handicapped spaces... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. I used to live near a Shop Rite supermarket |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. This Is Truly Bad News! |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. If you've never been 8 months preggers |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Current CA law allows for use of the "blue zone" spaces, if |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Here in Maine I've seen signs, similar to the |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Are You Actually Admitting |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yes :( |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Glad You Said That.... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Yeh. Still want to leave literature on Fair Trade and |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Target's prices are as low as Wal-Mart's -- and they're not nearly as evil |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. We have one opening next month! |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Target Always Seems |
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SaddenedDem (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Excuse me.... |
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NicoleM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. I'm currently |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. Can I Ask A Question Here? |
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stopthegop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. no...should discussions of affirmative action |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. You and I Do Not Disagree |
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stopthegop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. ahhh...sorry.. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. It also involves parking spaces for people with disabilities |
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stopthegop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. this makes sense.. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Maybe I'm just a conspiracy nut but... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. EXACTIMUNDO!!! Strickland wants to dilute the disabilities group, |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
81. They pretty much already have |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. Too true! Most disabled people would still be working if |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Some grocery stores in Houston have "pregnancy" spots |
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Mick Knox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. UGh, as a Californian.. |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. You Really Do Not Get It, Do You? |
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Mick Knox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. apparently so.... nt |
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Progress (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Not because he's a Republican |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. By My Count, |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. all Republicans are controlled by christofascists?! |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You Were Unaware of This? |
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strategery blunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I can agree |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
16. Our local grocery store has a parking section for mothers/fathers with |
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adriennel (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
30. our local grocer |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
35. The women's movement has worked very hard to see that pregnant women are |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. How so? |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. i've been a pregnant californian 4 times |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
40. One local mall has voluntarily added them here... |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
41. You're bashing an idea intended to HELP pregnant women?? |
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outinforce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. I Could Be Wrong, |
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Progress (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
71. I think you are wrong. |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
82. I don't buy it. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Nope. I'm bashing one that strikes at people with disabilities. |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Oh please... |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Please tell me |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. Perhaps it should have been more specific, like women in |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
48. I would hope that a doctor |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. You are correct that most states will allow their DMV to issue temporary |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
57. I know people who have gotten temp disability cards |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. I had my worst sleep deprivation |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. NC_Nurse and hllt2be (post just above) -- thanks for SENSIBLE |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
66. I completely ignore the "Parking for Customers with Children" signs |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
87. we already have them here Called expectant mothers parking |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
90. When my wife was pregnant, she would have LOVED it |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. 10 .5 Damn she did need that parking place...:) nt |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. My first was 10 lb, 4 oz. And I only gained the typical |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Wow. Those are some healthy babies . Ouch! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Please see my post below as you are |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-27-04 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
94. Listen up, I am disabled now, and I have been pregnant, and |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I can't imagine many here who can speak more authoritatively to this |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. KamaAina and I are, I think, the only disabled posting in the thread |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-28-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. I wouldnt be so sure of that |
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101. There is nothing more natural than....... |
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