Has "hard evidence" of WMD been found?

[Composed Thinker]

That's what Andrew Sullivan says on his Web site, giving this link: http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$ZJ4PODS4EKSXZQFIQMGCFFWAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2003/08/01/wirq01.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/08/01/ixportaltop.html

Is Sullivan full of shit?

[wryter2000]

1. More weapons "programs"

Or in this case, programmes.

They didn't say there wre programs. They said there were tons of weapons that could be in the US in 45 minutes.

[Composed Thinker]

3. But no WMD?

[htuttle]

5. No.

No WMD.

[Composed Thinker]

7. Then why is Sullivan listing that on his site?

Is it because he's an ass?

[htuttle]

9. It doesn't say that in the article in the link

In fact, quite the opposite:

His 1,400-strong team of American, British and Australian experts scouring Iraq has not yet found actual biological or chemical weapons, Mr Kay told private Senate hearings in Washington. But there was mounting evidence of an active WMD programme, he said.

(snip)

Mr Blair has already sought to prepare the public for the growing possibility that no actual weapons of mass destruction will be found - only evidence of programmes to develop such weapons.

(snip)

"We were not told the danger came from programmes or documents - that we were in real danger from tons of confetti. If the weapons aren't there, then I am afraid someone deliberately misled us," she (MP Glenda Jackson) said last night.

[robbedvoter]

2. No on evidence, yes on Sullivan

They are not even looking for weapons now. They downgraded it now to "program"
Rather than waste time on Sullivan, here's a good writer: Mark Morford:

== Hey Look Here's Some WMD Right Here In My Ass Wow ==
An adviser to the CIA hinted that U.S. and coalition personnel were
close to a breakthrough in the search for weapons of mass destruction
in Iraq, ha ha ha yeah right snicker. David Kay, the agency's special
adviser for the weapons search, who apparently replaced the dozens of
experts and scientists and military personnel and UN inspectors and
entire teams of searchers all of whom found nothing after months of
searching, said "solid progress" was being made and that Iraqi
scientists involved in the weapons programs are "collaborating and
cooperating." "We are very, very close to fabricating just enough utter
BS and cobbling together just enough bogus planted data along with
finally finishing up with our secret night shipments of nuclear and
chemical weaponry from Israel and Pakistan and the U.S. and planting
them as bogus evidence all over Baghdad that we might finally be able
to concoct some lame half-assed "proof" of WMD, so BushCo can say see?
See? We didn't actually go to war and massacre thousands and get
hundreds of U.S. soldiers killed for our vicious petrochemical
connections and military portfolios," he might've added, sucking down
his eighth Martini and wondering just how the hell his life came to
this. "Oh my freaking God do they think you are dumb. I mean, wow."

[Democat]

4. You should have put "found" in quotes

How hard would it be to "find" anything they want after this much time?

Bush could have built the pyramids again by now if they wanted to.

[fob]

6. It's not even close to that

I saw a snippet of that David Kay Liar yesterday and he was practically cumming in his pants about (paraphrasing)"info regarding programs to help Iraqis make wmd hiding programs".

The gist of what he said amounted to 3 steps removed from even wmd programs, let alone wmd's!

I'll have to find his exact quote, it's unbelievable!

bush* is a national disgrace

[Composed Thinker]

8. One has to wonder...

if they really have something, or if they are bullshitting the public. If they bullshitted the public at this point, wouldn't people harp on them? Or am I being too hopeful?

[WoodrowFan]

10. Just...

The nuclear stuff that was buried in that scientist's backyard, 12 years ago. And you know what you call an delicate nuclear instrument buried in sand 12 years? A paperweight!!!!!!!!!!! No exactly a threat to the US unless they were planning on having a sleeper agent throw it at Bush at a campaign rally!

[Composed Thinker]

11. And wasn't that only one piece of many that would be required?

[WoodrowFan]

13. yep (nt)

[htuttle]

12. That same guy with the buried parts...

...also said that the infamous 'aluminum tubes' were actually for rocket launchers, not uranium centrifuges.

[lcordero]

14. Yes he is FULL OF SHIT

I might somewhat believe them after a UN Inspector finds the amounts of WMD that George Bush was quoted saying:

http://rochester.indymedia.org/news/2003/06/679.php

George Bush, Jan. 7, 2003: "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent ... upward of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents...materials sufficient to produce more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin."

On edit: Keep in mind that it takes a lot less money to forge paperwork than it does to make chemicals.