The saddest part is NO ONE CARES.

[El Mariachi]

No one cares that we were lied to about Iraq being a threat the the US and its neighbors.

No one cares that Iraq had no connections with Al Queda or any real terrorist training camps harbored within and supported by the government.

HOW do you tell people that they wouldn't have backed an invasion of Iraq if Bush hadn't have told them that he was an imminent threat?

Its the truth, for most of us. I know for a fact that no one wanted to go dispose of Saddam with force back when Clinton was president. No one thought so when Bush was president, until he lied to us about Saddam being a threat.

Personally, I know Saddam is a rat bastard. No one can disagree. I wanted to get rid of Saddam a while ago. The worst part of this evil is how does one go about it? Obviously we've dropped the ball in Iraqi reconstruction so far. Or have we? Yes, I do think the US failed in thinking seriously about what happens after we took over Baghdad. HOWEVER, it doesn't help *our* situation when we're surrounded by locals who don't want us occupying them at all. I don't blame them. We could have handled this better.

Would a mere assassination do the job for us? Maybe, but then his sons may or may not have been in power.

Yes, I rambled off. But no one cares.

Do you want to hear the unadulterated truth? You already know it, but let me repeat it: NO ONE GAVE A FLYING F*** ABOUT IRAQI FREEDOM BEFORE OUR TANKS CROSSED THE BORDER. Maybe you or I did, but that's not who we're talking about. No one cared about a free Iraqi people. Bush only used it as an anecdote to support an invasion. The real reason he gave us is that he's a threat.

So, how do we convince someone of something they thought before? No one wanted to go through the trouble of removing Saddam through power until we were lied to about his threat to us.

[ShaneGR]

1. QUIT WATCHING FOX NEWS

You've been suckered.

[El Mariachi]

3. actually

I haven't WATCHED the news in forever.

In all honesty I follow headlines on news.google.com

Btw, where in Ohio? Cleveland area here.

And, to be more honest: Back in January-Feb (way before I found Du.com) I was all gung ho for forcing inspectors in Iraq. I was glad we had troops lining up on the border. It forced Saddam to comply. He was finally doing it! Finally complying! I was proud. Then we waited like what? A month or two, but that wasn't enough for us. Prior to that, i was EXTREMELY disappointed by Bush's SOTU and ESPECIALLY Powell's speech to the UN. I foolishy thought that rock hard evidence meant ... rock hard evidence. But all we had were a few pictures of strange trucks. Whoop-de-doo. At that point, I thought the inspectors should get more time.

Of course they didn't.

Next thing you know, we're about to attack and I'm thinking to myself, what the HELL is going on here?

So to sum it up: I was glad we used military influence to force Saddam to UN inspections, but I was utterly upset at the lack of evidence for WMD and Bush's push to invade. Its as if we never gave real inspectors a chance.

[StandWatie]

2. don't worry..

People forgot why they had gotten so cynical about foreign adventures after 9/11, this one is damn near the most cynical, shady, misuse of state power undertaken in fifty years or so by any nation. Pretty soon no one is going to admit they ever got suckered in by all this.

[anti_shrub]

4. Yeah I noticed that the only defense left by the Bushmaniacs

Has been the "we freed the Iraqi people" card, which always makes me laugh because it assumes that the average Pubbie was losing sleep over the poor eye-racky people being so repressed. You know people didn't give a shit about them before yet now its their big concern?

:shrug:

[Warren Stuart]

5. No one cares, but perceptions are being reformed

From a straight shooter to a not so straight shooter.

From the MBA President to the Clueless on the economy President

From the guy with the All Star lineup of advisors to the guy with the National Security Advisor who can't be bothered to read critical documents.

From the compassionate conservative to the guy who spent less time deliberating Death Penalty cases, then most people spend driving to work.

[DeathvadeR]

6. 30,000 of us

are here at DU because we care. So to say no one cares would be inacurate.