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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:55 PM
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Saddam "bluffed" about wmd? Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank.
Tonight on "Hardball" Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank of the Washington Post were saying maybe Saddam bluffed in claiming he had wmd.

What are they talking about?

During the leadup to the Iraq War, Iraq kept saying that they didn't have wmd, and the Bush Administration kept saying that Saddam was violating the UN by refusing to admit he has wmd.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:58 PM
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1. Milbank offered that, I think
Tweety was all over Kay today about the "WMD" bullshit. He knew he had the best of him so he said "Oh David Kay, you're just smarter than me" at the end of he interview. Tweety then went to sharpen his beak for democratic candidates.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:40 PM
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6. Huh? The Tweety I saw was practically sucking Kay's cock
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 08:41 PM by maggrwaggr
maybe we saw two different shows.

Matthews didn't ask Kay ONE tough question. At the end he said "you're a brave man."

He didn't ask the key questions such as:

Aren't you a republican? Don't you support George Bush? Weren't you a fervrent supporter of the war before it started? Why couldn't the inspectors have come to the same conclusion you did without the war?

Why do you think the war was necessary? If your son had died over there, would you feel the same way?

and the main question for Kay:

Aren't you covering your own ass by blaming all of this on others' bad intelligence?

and on and on and on ....

what any real "journalist" would have asked.

Tweety makes me sick.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:48 PM
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7. He plays Hardball....
when he has a dem or liberal person on and when there is a repub or anyone supporting Bush he kisses tem on the cheek and says, "you are a very brave man." If he was truly brave, Kay would say we need to investigate this WH!
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:15 PM
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10. or these questions
what about the office of special plans? What significance did that have in the build up to the war? Why was Dick Cheney at the CIA all the time? Do you think he was badgering the agents to find intelligence that would justify a war? Is it common for a vice president to spend that much time at the CIA? What about Chalabi and those people how much influence did they have? What about Wolfowits, Perl and the Project for a New American Century? Given that Cheney and the other neo-cons from that organization are now running the show, do you think that they intended to go to war from the first day the administration took over? Were they just looking for any reason to go in?

C'mon! I'm not a freaking journalist and I can think up these questions. Do your fucking jobs!!!!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:34 AM
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12. Cheney will resign because of "health" reasons. McCain set up as VP.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:07 PM
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2. Do anything but point a finger at Chimpboy and his administration...
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 08:07 PM by OneTwentyoFive
The level of the RW media takeover is just beyond belief. Clinton gets a blowjob and was never cut a NANO second of slack by these Whores.

Bush starts a War by spining lies for months about WMD and they can't lick his boots fast enough. Over 500 dead,over 3,000 wounded and THEY COULD FUCKING CARE LESS. Just keep those fat ass corporate profits coming in,thats all that matters to those thugs.

How in the hell do people have the GD conscience to work for those networks??

David
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:12 PM
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3. I've thought that all along...
Why wouldn't he bluff?...I think he's known for the past 20 years that these guys were coming for him...

I think the reason Bushco attacked was that they finally figured out the he didn't have any WMD at all...

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:29 PM
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4. selective memory and spin, spin, spin, 24/7....
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 08:30 PM by mike_c
Not only did President Hussein say that he had no such weapons, the U. N. inspectors were unconvinced as well. The IAEA said bluntly that there was no credible evidence of an active nuke-u-lar program.

It's interesting to watch the administration painting their current picture of "bad intelligence," when I recall plenty of opposing arguments at the time that Bush* was making his run-up to invasion. It's collective denial-- there WAS plenty of evidence that Hussein had complied with the U.N. disarmament mandate, and there was no bluffing about WMD's at all. The White House ignored the evidence then and is trying to keep it out of the public consciousness now.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:30 PM
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5. The Spin will never end.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:22 PM
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8. Yes, that's how I bluff at poker.
If my hand consists of, say, a pair of deuces, a four of clubs, a six of spades, and a ten of hearts, I bluff and tell everybody playing that I've got nothing. And then when I tell them that they ask me if I can show them, and I say yes, you may inspect my hand. And then they procede to do so.

So far it hasn't worked. But hey, I've never played Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank before.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:19 PM
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11. or after you say "yes, you may inspect my hand."
They punch you in the face and steal your wallet and hit everybody else at the table over the head with a bottle. Then when people complain they say that if you'd just let them inspect your hand this never would have happened.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:29 PM
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9. I think Saddam did put on a bit of an act...
...probably more to intimidate his neighbors and political enemies than anything else.

Unfortunately, that was just enough to be used as an excuse for invasion by the shrubbies. And OF COURSE the administration didn't think he had a significant WMD stash, or we wouldn't have invaded at all. We know with 99.9% certainty that North Korea has nukes, and you won't see us invading them anytime soon.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:28 AM
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13. "I think Saddam did put on a bit of an act..."
We have become the cause for every country in the world to try and obtain nukes. They think that will insure keeping us away from them. Protecting themselves from the U.S. North Korea, you are right, we won't be seeing them soon. I hope! We in America have become a 'poster child' on why to obtain nukes!
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:18 AM
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14. This war is a real boost for the lagging plutonium retail market
Almost makes me wonder if maybe some of bush's "Pioneers" don't have a material stake in making nuclear weapons available to 3rd-world tyrants.

Almost.
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