Was Bush going to go to invade Iraq no matter what?

[Guaranteed]

BEFORE the war, did you think that Bush was dead set on invading Iraq no matter what?

Edited for error on choice 3 and to capitalize "before."

[SHRED]

1. Yep

They have oil and Saddam threatened his daddy.

[cavebat2000]

2. Why lieberman isn't polling well

Democrats dont want this war.

[nostamj]

3. read The Price of Loyalty

if you have ANY doubts.

it was the ONLY, the ONLY issue on the NSC table from day one of the * administration.

islamic terrorism wasn't considered seriously until *after* 9/11 and even then, neocons like Rummy and Wolfy stayed focused on Saddam/Iraq.

there was never a question of IF, only WHEN and HOW

[Guaranteed]

4. Right, but did you think BEFORE the war that he was going

to do it no matter what?

[Terwilliger]

8. I did

and just remember that, while everybody will probably vote for #1, most of those people will vote for the pink tutu's

[Guaranteed]

9. I think you know

where I'm going with this.

[benburch]

16. Yes

I knew before he was selected that Iraq would be on his menu as soon as he could lie his way into it.

[kclown]

23. Me too

[0007]

22. I indeed did! But I thought that since we had Saddam Hussein

contained and the UN inspectors in Iraq, that it wasn't going to happen.

I thought the U.S. would invent a situation. Guess, I was right, 'eh?

[Poiuyt]

38. Absolutely. Here's the way I felt

bush started talking tough about Iraq and Saddam as soon as he got into office. At the say time the political pundits were saying that bush had seen his father's ratings fall after the first Gulf War was over and that Jr wasn't going to make the same mistakes that his father did. I figured he'd find some excuse to invade Iraq so he could call himself a war-time president and maintain his power. I never dreamed he'd be as successful as he's been (at least in the eyes of the general public).

[proud patriot]

5. as soon as I heard bush was running for President

I knew he'd start a war in Iraq .

Both my husband and I saw this coming from any republican
Administration .

The republican party is the War and Resession party.

[indepat]

6. It was evident from the moment the name Iraq was ever mentioned

by the the Administration.

[Guaranteed]

7. Yes, it was.

The second he started talking about Iraq we all knew what he was going to do.

[Ivote]

12. Darn tooten

I felt that way after reading "shrub" by Molly Ivans. Or should I say listened (have the audio book), during the 2000 primaries. If you havent read it yet, take a look see. Count how many things have come to pass.

[patricia92243]

10. No assination attempt on poppy=no war

[DinahMoeHum]

11. Yeah, I had that sickening feeling. . .to prove he had bigger

balls than his Dad.

:evilfrown:

[never cry wolf]

13. 36-0-0-0-0

Is the score as of 12:45 cst. Goes to show the type of well informed people here at DU. I knew long before I knew DU existed, anyone who can read and heard about the PNAC knew. I told everyone I knew it was a done deal and they all thought I was a tinfoilhatter making up RW conspiracy theories about the PNAC.

[Guaranteed]

14. People with a critical eye knew.

Which, I assume, includes our party leadership, some of whom voted for the war.

[A HERETIC I AM]

15. There was a great quote early on that made a funny comparison;

"If a country that was known to be the worlds leading consumer of potato chips and French fries started buying up all the land in Idaho and Oregon but SWORE that it wasn't interested in the potatoes, would we believe them?"

It is my opinion that Iraq was one of the reasons Bush was swept into office in the first place. Ask yourself this: Would John McCain have made a better president and was he or was he not a better Republican candidate than Shrub? McCain was a true war hero and i think he would have been MUCH more reserved about using military force than our current Nitwit In Chief. (I would have preferred Gore of course) This war on Iraq always was and always will be about control of the resources and market share. Just like EVERY WAR since the beginning of time.
The gullibility of the American people is astounding

[Cat Atomic]

17. CHENEY decided to invade Iraq early. I don't know about Bush.

[Guaranteed]

19. Right...I suppose that it was the Bush administration

as a whole.

[leesa]

18. He was also going to invade Afghanistan no matter what

The threat was made in July 2001. Invading Afghanistan had nothing whatsoever to do with "Terrorism". 'Kenny Boy' Lay desparately needed the pipeline for his failed energy company in India and Cheney promised to help him out. Plans had been on the table long before 9-11.

What a lucky break for them that 9-11 came along!

[OneTwentyoNine]

20. Hell yes,protests World wide didn't faze him and his regime....

Chimpboy was going in not matter what anyone said. The corporations demanded it and Bush complied.

500+ dead over 3,000 wounded,ahhhh so what...

David

[DjTj]

21. He would have gone even if the IWR failed

AND, they succeeded in making the IWR a wedge issue for Democrats.

Rove wins again!

[9215]

24. War is essential to the BFEE's

survival with its incestuous relationship with the Military Industrial Complex and fossil fuels.

[MrSlayer]

25. Without a doubt.

They had all this planned over ten years ago.

[areschild]

26. Absolutely.

There was no doubt in my mind that these scumbags had already decided to invade Iraq, whatever it took.

[Skittles]

27. 2 OF YOU THINK BUSH GENUINELY TRIED DIPLOMACY ???

IDENTIFY YOURSELVES SO I CAN KICK YOUR NAIVE ASSES.

[never cry wolf]

28. Less than I expected

Slow day for the trolls, I guess.

[are_we_united_yet]

31. Comedians

no doubt

[Iverson]

29. The results are closer than I anticipated.

Truly.

[Piperay]

30. 'Saddam tried to

kill his daddy', nough said. :mad:

[sangh0]

32. There are a lot of liars in this thread

I was on DU when IWR was being debated, and a large portion of posters were quite clear that they did not know whether or not Saddam had WMD's. Many thought he did because WE SOLD THEM TO IRAQ!!!

Now, EVERYONE seems to have known Saddam had no WMD's.

[Cheswick2.0]

39. That was not the question

The question was "did you know that Bush was going to invade Iraq." Yes we did and most of us knew there was no real threat from Iraq.

[Blue_Roses]

33. It was a given

n/t

[eissa]

34. Family in Iraqi opposition groups

said it was a fact. It was the main reason for some for voting for * in the first place; rumors are that a promise of some sort was made to Ahmad Chalabi's group. 9/11 was like manna from heaven to this administration; gave them the excuse they needed to carry out what they had been planning long ago.

[shimmergal]

35. It was pretty clear to me that * and co. were hell-bent to start a war

with Iraq no matter what. In fact Bush acted just like a teenager who's desperate to do something, for a reason he can't reveal. Oil and oilmen's influence, sure, and the threat to switch to the Euro for payments, but I still halfway wonder if there isn't also an additional,secret reason that won't come out for a generation, if ever.

I think some of the Dem. congresscritters also knew that he'd go in with or without the IWR. If they voted for it with this knowledge, you can't really hold them responsible for the war and its casualties. They couldn't have changed things no matter how they voted.

As for the "chemical and biological weapons;" yeah, I thought it was possible Saddam had a small trove of them. That didn't change my belief that going into Iraq was wrong and crazy. After all, there was no evidence that he planned to use them on us now, or in the future, or was supplying them to anybody who would. And if you want to be literal, even tear gas and pepper spray are chemical weapons.

I was disappointed with the Dems who voted for the IWR, the more so since reportedly their calls and letters were running between 20 to 1 and 100 to 1 against it. Still, I think their reasoning may have been like the above, figuring it wouldn't make any practical difference anyway, and that a "yes" vote would take the issue off the table for the 2002 elections. Of course, it didn't work.

[oasis]

36. On orders from PNAC.

www.newamericancentruy.org

[Guaranteed]

37. Kick nt

[OKHRANA]

40. YEP, and the first Gulf War was attacked the same way too...

I read somewhere that prior to invading Kuwait, Saddam sent feelers to Bush to get approval to invade Kuwait and got it.

Once Saddam did, then Bush attacks him. Hmmm.