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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:14 PM
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Is the media making too big a deal over Dean's controversial speech? vote
I don't see what's so "controversial" about it. Leave it to Wolfie to make even his question insulting.

The "yes's" have it.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/late.edition/
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:17 PM
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1. 89% yes/ 11 % no 1:15 est
But the publicity may turn out to be priceless
in the long run because now he's getting a buttload of free air
time for Americans to 'get to know' the 'real Howard Dean'.

Good move, if unintentional !

HA HA on the media !!


:hippie:
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:23 PM
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15. Wolfie bit the dust when he fed MCauliffe the AWOL bit as well
WOLFIE: Where do the dems stand on Michael Moore's labeling Bush a "deserter?"

McCuluffe: You can call it anything you want, but the facts speak for themselves...(as he tells them of Bush's AWOL)

Terry had the biggest shit-eating grin on his face after Wolfie fed him that opportunity, that Wolfie was tearing his hair out trying to get MCauliffe to stop talking. Golden opportunity not missed~! Good going, Terry!

Also, terrific job, Sen. Kennedy, for saying that you had no intention of standing up and clapping for a Bush "applause line" that was simply bad policy. You rock!!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:17 PM
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2. It has the hysteria of a McCarthy era witch-hunt
IMHO.
No big deal, it was for the volunteers consumption in Iowa really.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:27 PM
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3. They are beyond pathetic. See what actually happened at:
"http://idiomstudio.com" A good link is, also, at Blogdex - about # 8 or so on the list.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:28 PM
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4. As of 1:30 PM EST, it's 89% yes
but I doubt if the media sees the true significance of this. They've been suspected of being mandated to support the Pretzel-Dunce and undermine his opponents; this incident makes that a lot easier to believe. In other words, they've undermined their own credibility and integrity in the process. That will serve Dems well in the months ahead.


rocknation
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:14 PM
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10. I love "pretzel-dunce"
I was screaming at Wolfie, "Where were you in 2000 when Bush was calling a reporter an ASSHOLE, you ASSHOLE!"
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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16. I'm thinking the same thing...
... more and more anecdotal evidence emerges that Bushs'* support, even among Reps, in on the fast track to losses.

Even as the TV media keeps up the cheerleading, ignoring the stories they don't want you to hear.

At some point, even the thickest of Americans is going to realize that Fox and Cnn and their ilk have been co-opted.

And I think that is already happening, and will accellerate as the continual drumbeat of "improving economy" and "winding down conflict" stories are proven over and over again to be just so much propaganda.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:35 PM
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5. Wow, that's great still 89%
Which maybe proves that the public is not gullible after all.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:39 PM
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6. Sucks that for one to vote in the affirmative...........
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:41 PM by BigDaddyLove
you still have to agree that the speech was 'controversial'. :eyes:



It was only controversial because Wolf and Friends made it that way.
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:08 PM
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9. Wolfie made the dems talk about Dean rather than issues * has screwed us
on. Dems' time was spent discussing Dean, though I thought McCauliffe did a terrific job of using Michael Moore's comments about Bush being a deserter and playing off that for his own purpose:

"Oh, I wouldn't call him a deserter, but let's look at the facts...."

which he spouted off rapidly. Wolfie was apoplectic trying to stop McCauliffe from talking.

Good going Terry!!!!!
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:05 PM
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7. Good going, everybody! Wolfie Blitzer announced the results
without even showing the bar graph for those who are visually dependent!

What a shill for the GOP that Wolfie is! He said just before the commercial to wait for the poll results, so I waited, and then he quickly swept them under the carpet, mumbling 89% say yes, 11% say no, no graphics, nothing, the end.

What makes these poll results even sweeter is that Wolfie's interview of Liebermann and Kennedy keyed in on Dean's "controversial" speech, while 89% of viewers were saying "Wolfie, get a clue! We couldn't care LESS!"
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:07 PM
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8. It is too bad many here piled on this crap.
It really took any energy I had for ABB right off the table. I think we will be getting 4 more years of Bush and we unfortunately have earned it.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:16 PM
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11. Agreed, with repect to your subject line.........
but I'm still ABB all the way.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:20 PM
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12. guess this says it all...
Yes 90% 2645 votes

No 10% 301 votes

now the next question is...are they going to change the way they report or are they just going to go on like it didn't mean a thing...?
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:22 PM
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14. Rhetorical Question I'm guessing.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:20 PM
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13. too big a deal? yes
Dean should have toned down his yawp, but the media used it as a "angry man" focusing point

They DIDN'T cover the rest of his speech, which was simply inspirational oratory for his own people.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:44 PM
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17. I only now saw a clip of the speech, and
I am beside myself that Bush's whoring media could ride Dean like this for nothing.

"Controversy"? "Out of control"? "Unpresidential"? It makes me sick.

And Bush can tell Bob Woodward, "We will export death and violence to the four corners of the Earth in defense of our great nation, and rid the world of evil", and no one blinks a fucking eye.
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