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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:47 PM
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would you allow your teenage daughter to use the pill?
I dunno if I would
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:36 PM
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1. She WILL be on the pill
as was my older daughter, now 22. The youngest is 12.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:38 PM
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32. The Pill, or something !
Norplants, or Depo injections- whatever works for her body chemistry.

All it takes is one sweet talkin' hottie and 20 minutes of 'oh what the hell' to ruin her future.

I speak from experience, and don't want her to have the same life-hole to dig out of that I've had ...


:hippie:
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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:29 PM
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67. Absolutely, she will be one birth control.
What ever works for her, I may not even give her a choice in the matter. Hippie Chick is right on target.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:36 PM
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2. Of course
I'd probably help pay for it too. Its much better than her not being protected at all
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:37 PM
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3. Yep
I can't take it for health reasons, but I would definitely let my daughter use it (if I had one).
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Carl21014 Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:38 PM
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4. A rubber would be better!
Assuming she's going to have sex when she wants to, not when I want her to. A condom does much more than stop pregnancy.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:40 PM
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5. It takes both these days
sadly. The pill can keep you from getting pregnant, and a condom will protect you from AIDs. That's just dating reality.

U
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:42 PM
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9. A condom doesn't always work
but I'd make sure those were available too
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:56 PM
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48. Condoms break
It's a fact of life, although you are right, they stop more than pregnancies.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:40 PM
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6. If there was a reason for her needing it, of course I would.
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:40 PM
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7. I would not buy the pill for my under 18 daughter.
I don't have a daughter, but if I did... my rule would be simple. No sex until 18. Same for any boys I would have. I would educate in the methods of safe-sex and contraception, but I would strongly promote abstinence until 18. Then, living in my house or not, she or he can make their own decisions.
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:02 PM
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23. personally, I think it's irresponsible to do so
under 18 is too young to be sexually active... the options should be there... and we should educate on sexuality, but to promote sexually irresponsible and in some locales, illegal behavior; is a mistake and sets a bad example for kids.

As I said before, once you hit 18, you can make your own decisions. But in America, 18 has become the legal adult age, and parents should act accordingly.
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:32 PM
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53. funny...
back in the day people where getting married at 15 and 14 years of age...if they are not mature enough to have sex now...then that's an issue of maturity and not biology...

I would be more concerned about AIDS then pregnancy, as a pregnancy can be terminated...with AIDS it's you that's terminated...and teens are the fastest growing group for HIV infections...

yes...the pill..yes a condum...yes a HAZMET suit...yes no sex until you're 42...but just be honest with them....and let them know you love them and are sure they'll make the right decisions cause you raised them to be strong, independent mature adults and arnt going to be a hipocrit now by squashing their free will....

:shrug:

but whadda I know?!
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:02 AM
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57. I would tell her to wait until she was 18 but if she doesn't
I also want ther to know she can should use birth control.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 02:55 PM
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60. that's your opinion
however it is not one shared by the majority of those having teenage sex. It is only illegal for a minor to have sex with an adult.

Parents should act according to their belief systems. Not what you or any other person decides is the moral age at which a person becomes an adult...and btw 18 is not the legal age for adulthood, one doesn't become a full adult til 21
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:18 PM
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66. 18 is adulthood, 21 is only for drinking in some states
sorry at 18 you can die for you country, enter into legal contracts, get credit cards, vote, marry, just about everything...
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:35 PM
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79. drinking age in ALL states
you can't buy guns in most states or rent cars at 18 either.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:30 PM
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91. its all states
and in most states you can't purchase pronography til 21 either. ergo you are not a full member of society. 18 is the legal age, and carries most rights but not all.
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Romberry Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:07 PM
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27. You know what they call people who set rules...
...that say their kids cannot have sex before 18 and who because of those rules refuse condoms and BC pills for their kids? Yep...grandparents.
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Sava Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:39 PM
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33. you misunderstand
I said, "not in my house" and "not with my money". My parents refused condoms and such and I'm not a father... and that's because my parents taught me responsibility. Responsibility =! Nazi-like rule. There are ground rules, and they need to be followed. I disagree with parents who try to be best friends with their kids. My parents are cool as hell, but there should never be a mixing of roles. Parents are parents. You obey and respect. That doesn't mean you can't have fun... it just means you follow the rules.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:03 PM
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38. you can promote all you want
but believe me, they WILL have sex if they really want to! the sex drive is very strong.
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directinfection Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:49 PM
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46. i would provide the pill
"I don't have a daughter, but if I did... my rule would be simple. No sex until 18. Same for any boys I would have. I would educate in the methods of safe-sex and contraception, but I would strongly promote abstinence until 18. Then, living in my house or not, she or he can make their own decisions."

the old "no sex till your 18" rule. it always worked so well, ask any pregnant 16 year old. please, get real here. Yes, if i had a daughter i would ask of her to hold off on sex till she was 18, but you can only infulence your children so much. no, i don't think 15 or 16 year olds need to have sex, but remember that this was prime marrying age in our not too distant past. when a female is fertile, hypothetically she is ready for sex, thats nature. sex is what they are supposed to be doing, its only rigid social norms that want to prevent them from having sex. I would hope that my child would wait till she was older to have sex, but if she came to me and asked for birth control, why would i deny her? face it, teenagers have sex regardless of what parents want. better be safe than sorry.

Im not a parent, but as someone who is just coming off from being a teenager, i don't think there is a magic age when someone is ready for sex. at 17 I was in no way emotionally ready for sex, but others could very well be.people used to get their periods at 17, now the average age is 12, sometimes as early as 9. fact ism children grow up faster these days...only that person can decide for themselves when they are ready.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:08 AM
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58. Kids don't always obey rules!
Especially teenagers. I would buy my teenage daughter the Pill (if I had a daughter) and explain to her the implications of becoming sexually active. I'd also point out that even if she has no plans to be sexually active, the Pill will regulate her periods and may reduce cramps.

I'd really rather see a kid protected just-in-case than make an unenforcable rule and have to deal with the consequences when that rule is broken.

For myself, if I had my teen years to do over again, I'd have had sex earlier (I lost my virginity at 18) and with more people (I lost it to the man I married).

Tucker
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:42 PM
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8. I have a teenage daughter?
OMG.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:43 PM
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10. ROTL! I had the same thought!
:eyes:
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:50 PM
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17. Lol. Same here. And, subsequently, yes.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:46 PM
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11. Yes.
And teach her about other birth control. Not that I would want her sleeping around, but kids do bad stuff and shit happens. Better a pill than an abortion or baby.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:46 PM
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12. Does She Need Your Permission?
When I was that age, after seeing my sister and my best friend get preggers - I marched my ass down to planned parenthood - BC pills were so cheap back then. Did I ask my mommy - NO
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:48 PM
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13. Yes
and provide her with a never ending supply of condoms
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:48 PM
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14. Absolutely.
Without a doubt.

Why wouldn't you want her to take the pill?
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:49 PM
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15. No and yes
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 07:51 PM by Blue_Chill
It's situational.

I would encourage her NOT to have sex because I'm a guy and thinking of my teen daughter having sex would be like sticking a knife in my heart. However I'm not stupid and I would rather not have to make a 'choice'.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:35 PM
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54. Oh, c'mon, Blue, be real here....
Haven't YOU ever done the nasty with somebody's daughter? I know I have. Hell, that's how my daughter got here.

Our daughters grow up, and they get naked with some guy, and that doesn't mean we failed as parents, just means that the days of us being her most important man are over....

Gee, that *IS* sad, ain't it?
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 02:57 PM
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61. Most guys don't like the thought of their daughters out dating
but that doesn't stop some of them from having the sense to know its not going to happen the way they want or wish it could
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:45 PM
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89. Yup, thats why they say "dating" when they mean "f*cking"
Somes guys cannot deal with it at all, the inevitable fact that little Susie is sooner or later gonna be out there in the back seat of a mustang with her panties around her ankles getting badly humped by a little jerk who has no idea how to treat a woman right.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:49 PM
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16. I'm not sure.
I didn't use the pill; I disn't trust the possible side effects. That was a couple of decades ago. I used other methods. Including permanent prevention after the birth of my second child.

I would definitely educate her fully about the options, and provide her with whichever seemed most appropriate. I provided my sons with condoms, no questions asked. I would do the same for a daughter.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:04 PM
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25. Good points
The side effects messed me up, big time! Never again will I ingest synthetic hormones...
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:55 PM
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18. She is using it
She's my stepdaughter, but her mother & my husband & I all agreed that if she wanted to, she should have the option to take birth control pills. However, I just heard from my stepson's girlfriend that my stepdaughter has stopped taking it--the only reason we can think of is that she wants to get pregnant by her boyfriend. My husband is going to have a heart to heart with her & see what's up.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:56 PM
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19. WHy the worry?
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 07:58 PM by HEyHEY
If I ever had a daughter she wouldn't be leaving the house until 25 anyway.
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 07:57 PM
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20. as much as you might like to...
you can not protect your children from the life that is their own. my daughter is now 26, she has two beautiful children, but she came to me at the age of 14 and confessed to me that she would like to begin considering a sexual relationship with her then boyfriend..i spoke to both of them and expressed all of my concerns but the fact is, all you can do is arm them to deal with real life..she had an appointment with planned parenthood within the week that i brought her to and paid for and there was a bowl of condoms available
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:02 PM
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24. I not only would
I did

My grandaughters too ~~~~


I was never one to say "my kid wouldn't do that"

they were MY kids and I KNEW they would do everything they couild get by with I did when I was a teen !!!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:02 PM
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44. Welcome to DU!
Although your approach does technically make more sense. I still will have to go with my father's. Which means any boy comes to me and says he wants to have sex with my 14-year-old daughter will "disappear" IE go down for the dirt-nap.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:01 PM
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22. I'll insist on it.
Although, in a few years they may come up with a better contraceptive. Is your hesitation motivated by the desire of becoming a young grandparent? Or producing fodder for the adoption market? Or antagonising anti-abortionists? Or an unrealistic desire that no pill leads to no sex? Or is simply concern about the side effects of the pill?
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Interrobang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:04 PM
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26. Yes, absolutely.
Probably from the age when she first started to menstruate, actually, whether she was a "teenager" then or not. With my long and inglorious history of severe dysmenhorroea, and my fiance's being a "DES son," she'd wind up irregular and with menstrual cramps from hell, most likely. Fortunately for us, we're not planning on having kids, but still...

Also, since I personally am someone else's unplanned pregnancy, I'd hate to see that happen to my daughter. I don't have any illusions about kids having sex or not having sex; I waited until I was 18, but that was mostly because of lack of opportunity and partially because by the time I found someone with whom I actually wanted to have sex, we figured it would be smart to wait a few months to avoid possible statutory rape charges...he was 31 at the time. (Ahh, nostalgia!)

In fact, I was on the Pill from age 17 to 23, and I really, really, really want to go on it again. Now that they've started making Lactaids with synthetic rennet (YES, the amount of lactose in a lactose-bound pill IS enough to bother me; I am THAT sensitive!), I can do that again...as soon as I can afford it!

(Note to prior poster concerned about side effects: The Pill is a different animal now than it was even 10 years ago. The new "microdose" types are a lot safer than the old ones, in terms of harmful side effects, and as long as you don't smoke, they're as safe or safer than anything else you might want to put into your body for medical reasons.)
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:07 PM
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28. I'm glad my mom got me some when I was in high school
so I didn't ruin my life by getting pregnant or have to have an abortion. I don't plan on having kids but if I did I'd definatley get her some. I'd also provide condems. HIV was not a likely threat for me then, but now it's more prevalent.
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Romberry Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:08 PM
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29. Short answer...
Yes. You can either live in the real world or you can live in denial. The fact is that teenage sex is as old as mankind. Hormones are powerful things. Teenagers need to be educated about pregnancy and disease prevention. That means condoms and birth control pills.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:29 PM
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30. Yes Yes and Yes Again... Been there, you have to let them go
I always thought I would educate my daughter but not enable her by supplying the pill and condoms or whatever. She is now 20, in college and doing very well.

When the choice is death or getting the condoms, you get the condoms. When it's pregnancy or getting the pill, you get the pill. There's no reason to dump a bunch of judgmental, double standard sexist crap on your daughters. Even when you know they aren't old enough to be making some of the decisions they're making, you have to stand by them and continue helping them grow up. And keep them alive and not pregnant at the same time.

And the exact same thing went for my sons, who actually were virgins longer than my daughter was.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:34 PM
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31. Yes.
But I won't like it.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:47 PM
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34. Allow *and* encourage
Just as I encouraged my son to always use a condom during sexual intercourse. There is nothing more emotionally devastating and life altering as an unplanned pregnancy (or STD). We don't have to like our childrens' sexuality or be comfortable with it, but if we stick our heads in the sand and pretend our disliking it will prevent it from happening, they will pay a heavy price. Better safe than sorry.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:52 PM
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35. Most definitely
I live in the real world and so does she.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:58 PM
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36. Actually this came up just last Saturday with both my daughters
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 09:04 PM by NNN0LHI
One is now 29 and the other is 31. My wife and I decided to put them both on the pill on their 16th birthday. And we did. Last Saturday both of them and I were all together at a family reunion and I got them to the side for a talk and asked at what age they decided to have sex. One said 20 and the other said 19. I have frank discussions with my girls so asking them was no problem. I just wanted to know if they had respected my wish to wait until after they were 18 years old as I had asked. They both did. Neither has children yet (though one of them will bless me with a grandson in a few months) and neither has had an abortion.

I was young when I was married. I was 17. My wife was 19. And I knew how kids think and act. Hell, I was still a kid myself. But they respected me and my wishes for them to wait. I was blessed. They both thanked me for understanding how kids were at the time and trusting them, and are now both very happy. I was also very happy that they listened to my advice and waited.

I almost posted a thread on this last Sunday, but with the switching to DU2 I had forgot until now. Thats me and my daughters stories.

Don

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:00 PM
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37. yes, if i had a daughter
(i have none, only sons)...from what my youngest son tells me, the teen girls out there now are WILD. many will give head in a heartbeat, even before intercourse. i used to want daughters, but i'm now glad i have none. it would make me a basket case.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:25 PM
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39. as the mother of two sons...
yes, if I had a daughter who had a long-term boyfriend and they were possibly having sex, then, yes, absolutely, positively, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

and as the mother of two sons, I would ask you to make sure your daughter is as responsible as I expect my sons to be in such a situation.

my sons are not even dating yet, but we talk about the MUTUAL responsibility for contraception...after I joke around and tell them they can't date till they're retired...

but honestly, would you be willing to have your child be a teenage parent because you don't want her to be sexually active????

If you were the parent of my son's girlfriend, I'd talk to you about this, frankly.

As a female and as a parent, I feel that if you are unwilling to protect your daughter from pregnancy just because you didn't want her to have sex, then you are not acting in your child's best interest. (you asked about the pill, but there are other options as well.)

having access to birth control does not make you sexually active.

I had to "teach" a section of my second year bio. class in h.s. and, as the youngest (14), got stuck with the reproductive system. I was, at that time, engaging in some passionate kissing, at the most, btw, but was able to show my class all forms of birth control, as well as how babies are born and I remained a virgin all through high school, even though I could have obtained birth control at any time if I wanted or needed it...after all, I taught the class...

but when parents try to control their children when they are determined to do something as important as having sex, I think there comes a point when such control will only lead to deception and the possibility of unwanted/unplanned pregnancy.

There is no reason for girls to have to be pregnant because their parents refuse to acknowledge that kids make decisions we may not like.

my dad and stepmother (my mom was dead) were impossible to talk to about these things, and that carried over into other areas of our relationship. I was never as close to them as my own kids are with me because I am willing to hear truths, even when I don't like them.

this is NOT being my sons' "best friend." it is annoying as hell to me to hear people try to label one-sided parental decrees as the only way to parent.

I grew up with that and I can tell you it only made me thankful to get as far away from my parents as I could as soon as I could, and never made me feel close to them or feel like they knew me or cared to know me for who I was.



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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:50 PM
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40. Yes
I am not a parent yet but my husband and I were talking about it since I am on the pill, which in addition to not making me pregnant greatly decreases the heavy bleeding and painful cramping that I had in my teens before I took the pill. I see no harm in it as it prevents pregnancy. From another angle, I knew several girls, including a couple of cousins, who missed a day or two of school every month because they had severe menstral symptoms. I remember my aunt having a discussion with my mother how the doctor said that my cousin would be a lot better off on the pill and would not be as affected by her period. My aunt refused though for fear that her fifteen year old daughter would begin having sex. I think that it is disgusting how some parents will let their daughters miss school and feel ill when there is an effective treatment available that just happens to have a side effect of not getting pregnant. I don't think that any responsible parent would want their teenage daughter pregnant.
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nykiera Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:55 PM
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41. Yes
My stepdaughter is 15 and has a steady boyfriend. We suspect very strongly that they have been getting intimate. My husband allowed her to get a prescription for the pill. However, once she received the packet...she refused to use it...because "I will forget to take it" Sooooooo we talk to her a lot about consequences, etc which she also sadly ignores because we "do not understand".
I also have two 15 year old boys and they are a LOT more responsible about discussing sexual matters. Neither one has a girlfriend...yet..as a girlfriend would "only be a nuisance".
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:13 AM
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59. There are implants and the depro shots
.s There are also watches with alarms on them. That is what I used.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:01 PM
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42. Absolutely
HOWEVER, I would make sure she understands that unprotected sex can KILL her. I would also hope that she would have enough self-esteem not to let someone else use her body as a sex object. Once a child is a teenager, there isn't a whole lot a parent can do to control them unless they lock them in their room 24 hours a day. Hopefully, the child has been raised with the capability to make healthy and smart choices.
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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:01 PM
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43. i did,nt
and low and behold , we had our first grandaughter who is 13 now and the pride of our life , so by saying no , when i did , my daughter did,nt pay attention to what i was trying to tell her , but we ended us with a wonderful grandaughter who is full of life and is a straight a student , so i would still say no to the pill
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:29 PM
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45. Yes. Been there. Done that.
I'm not my daughter's best friend. I'm her mother. And I let her know that as her mother I would be there for her if/when she decided to become sexually active. My emphasis to her is that sex is behavior which requires responsibility, including a visit to a doctor and contraception. And, (I'll admit I was surprised) she did come to me when she was 18 and we went to the doctor together. I've never wanted to know the details of her sex life but I do feel as her mother I should be a resource she trusts. It's my job to make sure she has the facts and is as safe as is possible.
As for setting "rules" saying when a teenager can expect to have sex...remember when you were a teenager? Did you drink? Did you smoke, (whatever?) Did you drive too fast? Did you lie to your parents? If you're normal, you probably did. You may even have had sex. So, don't expect your son/daughter to behave dramatically differently just because it's your fantasy that he/she is adhering to all your rules. You're not helping your daughter by living in your own dream world.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:55 PM
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47. I'll buy it for her
Better than her having to drop out of high school, or be a single mom, etc. She's also going to be raised to respect herself and realize that she doesn't have to "put out" to make horny idiots like her.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:16 PM
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49. allow it?
I took her to get it, when I heard a rumor that she was sexually active. I was pregnant at 18 and did not wish the same fate for her. We took a trip to Planned Parenthood - and she was really mad at me, but she now tells me it was the best thing I ever did for her. All the girls she went to high school with have at least one baby, and usually 2-3 with different fathers. My daughter has been married for 3 years, and they plan not to have children. Now she's battling to get her tubes tied. :mad:
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:04 PM
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84. Battling to get her tubes tied?
If neither she nor her husband want kids and they know that now, who are they battling? The doctors?

To all the parents of daughters who do not want their daughters going on the pill: Is there a form of birth control you'd prefer they use instead? Please have a heart to heart talk with your daughters before forbidding birth control.

The pill isn't for everyone. Some women can't take it at all. Daughters and sons should be aware of what's available, how effective it is, and most importantly how to use it. Combining methods works best. Teach, don't preach. Yes, abstinence is the ideal, but in the real world, abstinence isn't always feasible. (Tell that to a rapist)

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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:32 PM
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86. most doctors wont do it...
unless you are thirty and/or have already had two children. its absolutely fucking rediculous.
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:16 PM
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90. Grrrrrrrrrr!
Yet another example of "Honey, we know you better than you do and we know what's best for you," accompanied by the figurative pat on the head.

Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!

I do have a question. Do the doctors refuse men who want vasectomies without being 30 or already having 2 kids?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:25 PM
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50. Yes.
Why wouldn't I????

Like telling her to "Close your eyes and think of Jesus until the urge passes" would do any good?

And I gave her a master course on how 19-yr-old dudes are dawgs and all the ways they'll try and sweet-talk your panties off, too.
Funny, but she already knew about the old "kick 'em inna nutz" routine...
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:27 PM
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51. Oh yes, yes, yes...
as well as encourage her to have condoms also. Hell, I would help her shop for "interesting" ones! I mean, you try to be bluntly honest with them, and let them know you are there to answer questions. But just in case they neglect to let you know ahead of time, that they will be having sex, better to have them equipped and prepared...
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 12:05 AM
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55. Of course
I have a daughter who is 11 and we are very frank and open and I answer all questions regarding her body and the intense emotional ramifications as well. Fortunately, she's still at the age where she thinks its "gross", but I don't expect her to feel this way in a few years.
In another 2 or 3 years, I'll aproach it in a way to tell her when she feels ready, she can either come to me and I'll help her or she can mention it to her doctor and it will be confidential or she can go to Planned Parenthood and it will confidential. I'd prefer for her to wait until she's at least 18 and definately in a longer term relationship and will tell her this, but I won't be angry if she doesn't. It's untimately her decision, not mine.
I had her at a young age (20) and became pregnant with her because I was not careful one night. Fortunately, I had just gotten engaged and our plans for a two year engagement turned into a month engagement. I was in a very good situation as a young mom (and still married to the same man with 3 more boys), but it was still really hard at times.
I'd actually rather her use the new patch that has the same hormones as the pill because it's a bit more effective. You can't forget it and it's not affected by something like a stomach illness. I actually got pregnant the second time unplanned because of a bout of food poisoning while on the pill. (I miscarried though.)
As far as my boys, they will always be told to use condoms and I'd buy them and keep them around if necessary. They are less effective on a birth control standpoint, but since it's the only option for young men, they need to do it. Most women are honest, but If I was was a man, I wouldn't want to take a chance. Besides, extra backup and STD prevention is always a plus in any situation.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 12:24 AM
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56. heck yeah...it's far better than granny (me) changing diapers
it beats babysitting a child while the other child struggles to get their life back on track...
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 02:58 PM
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62. Are you kidding?
When my 19-year-old started college, I urged her to do so!!!
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:04 PM
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63. No
Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 03:18 PM by kayell
When she was a teenager I recommended that she use a combination of diaphragm and condom.

Actually, I talked over the different options, (including no sex(and why she should be prepared anyway)), and where she could get them. Offered to help her, if she needed it. (This embarressed her half to death) It was of course her choice what she used. Kids are likely to have sex, why not make sure that they are informed and have options if they do. Hormones, human nature, you know?
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:11 PM
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64. Absolutely!
I have one daughter and another on the way, so I expect to face this one day. I wouldn't be happy that my daughter was sexually active as a teen, but she will know all about birth control. I don't want her to have to learn about it the way I did (clandestinely.)

I took the pill for 16 years, with no ill side effects. I only went off it to start a family. I got pregnant within 2 months of stopping each time. If my girls are as fertile as I seem to be, they'll NEED the pill, as well as plenty of education about HIV & STDs!
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:11 PM
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65. My 17-year-old daughter IS on the pill...
But it's only to help with her complexion.
no, wait, it's because she gets cramps really bad.
It's not that, wait a minute, it's
Oh, shit, my little girl is having SEX.
Ah, hell, by little pumpkin, who used to jump up and down at the top of the steps when i got home from work.

You know how when you're young it's really awful to imagine your parents having sex? Well, when you're a parent, it's even worse to imagine your kids having sex.

Actually, I was proud of the way she handled it. She found a nice gentle boy, they dated for a year, talked over all the issues and then she approached her mom. They went together to see the gynocologist dr. and she gave her the prescription.

She's going to college next year. her boyfriend will be at a different school far away. so the relationship may not last but i think at least she will remember it fondly.


the only thing was, and I can laugh about it now, is that she just couldn't bring herself to tell her old man that she was going to begin having sex.........
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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:41 PM
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69. Your post hit home. brought a tear to my eye
My daughter is only 6, and I never want her to grow up. But, there are a lot of things I never wanted, and have had to deal with.

When the time comes, as it surely will, I will do what is best for her, and given MrsThrockmorton's current bought with cancer, I will most likely have to do it alone.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:04 PM
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72. I'm sorry to hear about your wife
I will pray for her and your family.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:39 PM
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68. Yes
even though I don't have a daughter, I remember being a teenage girl. No question about it (if it's what she wants.)
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 03:47 PM
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70. I have three daughters
one married now and I wouldn't mind if she went off the pill so I could have grand children. An 18 yr old who has been on the pill for two years and 8 year old who will do the same. My worry is not about having sex it is about safe sex. That is what my wife and I talk about.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 04:51 PM
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71. Because I don't have a daughter I don't know the answer to some things
Such as what is the effect of a hormone modifying (suppressing?) drug on a developing body?

Given that STDs can be transmitted (well, easier anyway) with someone on the pill but other than that having unprotected sex, my first thought is that I would really hope she'd be smart enough to insist on a condom on the guy no matter what.

So my inclination is to say "no" but I have to admit I don't know the definitive answer to the question I have about the effect on development.
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:06 PM
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73. Absolutely! If she were sexually active, it would be
wrong of me not to.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:10 PM
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74. it would be required
most intelligent adults that have thought this out would agree
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:14 PM
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75. Yes...and I plan to give all three of them condoms
when they get a little older than 6, 4, and 1.

People have sex - teenagers are people - I want them protected from both pregnancy and STDs.

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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:16 PM
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76. Didn't with my oldest daughter....
Will with my younger daughter. That's why they call me Granddad.
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:20 PM
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77. I let her boyfriends sleepover when she was 16
I'm a single father of 17 years. My daughter makes about 45k a year, she got married last year and owns her own home. I never told her sex was bad, just to be careful. Tell me I was wrong...
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:32 PM
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78. btw
Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 05:32 PM by Friar
I always answered any questions about sex as truthfully as I could. I think she knew more about it than any of her friends when she was a kid. I told her about STDs, AIDS, pregnancy and all that. When she menstruated the first time she knew it could happen any time because I told her about it. I had to be mommy and Daddy. I didn't show her about tampons or any of that wimmin stuff. A GF did it for me :)
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:36 PM
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80. why wouldn't you?
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:44 PM
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81. maybe
but I will certainly stress the importance of condoms. I won't ask my daughters to wait til a certain age, but I will tell them to wait until they are sure they are ready... AND TO USE A CONDOM NO MATTER WHAT.
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Incognito Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:50 PM
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82. Not only would she be on birth control pills......
She would also own stock in the Trojan condom company and have a lifetime supply of condoms! :D

Condoms are a MUST...... even if she is on birth control pills...AIDS is deadly.

:dem:
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LiberalLibra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:50 PM
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83. YES, YES, and did I mention YES, in fact I encouraged just that....
....when I thought the time (in her teen years) was appropriate. I also enouraged her to refuse to sleep with a guy who would not wear a condome. I didn't atop with my daughter though, I also encouraged my boys to use condomes and to absolutely refuse to sleep with any girl/woman who objected.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:12 PM
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85. ALLOW IT?!!!!!
I insisted on it. Had two. Now fine upstanding citizen women, neither with kids. Lots of horses though.
:nuke:
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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:41 PM
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87. did my post get erased??
i cant find it? i dont have a personal message and i dont think i broke any rules.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:45 PM
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88. Yes, Yes and Yes!
I would forbid my kids procreating under my roof.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:17 PM
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92. I am a young girl
And I think allowing your child to be on the Pill would be better than her having to go through an abortion if she gets pregnant or not using it so she would increase her chances of getting pregnant.

In a word, yes. I'd rather see my daughter at least be protected.
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