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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:57 AM
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Politically Damaging letter From James Sensenbrenner R-WI
The contents of the letter are not in here...yet....but please read

In respose to an e-mail I sent to about supporting an open investigation of Iraq Intelligence Sensenbrenner sent me a personally signed letter (he actually signs his amazingly enough its the third one I have got from him..).

I mentioned in the letter that weapons of mass destruction have yet to be found and he replied that indeed they were in the form of the mobile trailers pumped up by Bush to be mobile weapons labs. This letter was dated July 24th. Now excuse me weren't these mobile labs found to contain zero evidence of WMD's? Yet here is a congressmen who is standing by false information and is using it to based positions on.

I am planning on sending a copy of this letter to the local press. As it contains statements of positions that have no basis in fact. It is as if he was ignoring reports contrary to his statements (Ha!..imagine a republican doing that..)


BTW - Sensenbrenner is chairman of the House Judiciary Comittee. Which is where impeachment articles are drawn up up if I am not mistaken. Sennsenbrenner has disagreed with Bush on occasion and could possibly lead a republican revolt against Bush if enough public pressure is mounted on him. If he bolts from Bush I feel many other midwest republicans would as well. He could be the Republican we need to convince. Once he gets into something he is tenacious and his constinuency will stand behind him.

I request any DUers in Wisconsin's 5th congressional district to contact James on this matter. (or anyone for that matter)

I will have a scan of the letter available shortly.

We need to go after individual Sr. Republican congressmen at a grass roots level. Sensenbrenner is the best target for a concentrated campaign and I have the most excellent letter he sent as ammunition. I have seen him change positions under public pressure when it is backed up with facts and sent to the press.

email James at sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov

Please help

More to come...


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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:02 AM
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1. You realize that there are machines...
You realize that there are machines that sign letters, right?

Atlant
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:09 AM
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3. Or it could have been an intern
I am pessimistic that it would make much of an impact in the press, but I think Left Hander is just saying that the congressman is telling his constituents things that have been proven false.

He didn't have to sign the letter personally for Left Hander's point to be valid (unless he denies that he approved the content of the letters going out of his office, which *would* make a good story).

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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:35 AM
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7. One that signs?
A lot of signatures are pre-printed on letterhead. I sure it is not one of those. Are you talking about a little plotter device with a fountain pen or felt tip? I have not seen one but I don't doubt they exist.

I will compare the signature from the letters I got if they are exactly the same I will be dissapointed. I thought that they still signed a small percentage of correspondence.

regardless the letter still stands on it's own as a offical position document.



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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:47 AM
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9. yep, my ex used to work for the company that makes the most commonly...
...used one-- damn, the name escapes me now-- but LOTS of public officials, high ranking executives, etc. use them. It's real nineteenth century tech, to-- a big rotating platter with bumps and depressions that move a stylus, and the motion is translated into the motion of a pen that exactly duplicates the signature. The paper sits on the top surface of the thing under the "robot" pen. I had no idea until she went to work for them. It's a "real" signature, not a preprint or anything like that-- a real pen making real marks on paper.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 05:47 PM
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14. I think it's called 'Autopen'
Does automatic signatures, kind of like a plotter.

They've been around for a long, long time.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:08 AM
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2. orin hatch said it again this morning on imus!
they're still lying about those two trucks!
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Avis Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:10 AM
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4. Amber Alert?
Wasn't he the guy holding up the national amber alert program - where the parents in CA were on TV complaining that he was holding this up? What ever happened? I would think this issue would kill him with young children's parents in Wisconsin? I know a young republican WI mom that was upset by that.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:17 AM
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5. Considering sending this to the DPW
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin would be the perfect vehicle to make a big stink about this as well. It could be a two front assault. Consider sending a copy of your letter, his letter and a bit of research that refutes his facts and supports yours. I'm sure they would love to have a chance to put a little pressure on Sensenbrenner. They're new communications director is working hard to light fires wherever he can.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:30 AM
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6. LeftHander, could you e-mail me or PM me please?
My husband is running for Congress against Sensenbrenner. We could use a copy of that letter.

(We live in Waukesha.)
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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:48 AM
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10. don't forget the Amber alert story
which could be a swell campaign ad, or argument down the road.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:48 AM
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11. Believe me, we won't forget that one...
:hi:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:39 AM
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8. Speaking of Sensenbrenner
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:21 PM
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12. Found this Sensenbrenner quote
this afternoon and wanted to post it for anyone from the Wisconsin 5th CD interested in writing a letter. It quotes him during his term as impeachment trial manager against Clinton. Might be useful in a letter.

Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisconsin):
“The truth is still the truth, and a lie is still a lie, and the rule of law should apply to everyone, no matter what excuses are made by the president's defenders…We have done so because of our devotion to the rule of law and our fear that if the president does not suffer the legal and constitutional consequences of his actions, the impact of allowing the president to stand above the law will be felt for generations to come…laws not enforced are open invitations for more serious and more criminal behavior.”
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 04:37 PM
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13. Focus
As you can see from some of the posts, people are concentrating on your assertion that the letters were personally signed. First of all, those posts are probably correct.

But the key point is that your representative is basing political positions on false information. Stay focused on that. Will your papers run these letters? Who the hell knows. But if you keep them short and focused, you stand a better chance than if they are lengthy and unfocused. And definitely the issue of the signature renders it unfocused.

I don't mean to be so critical, but as you can see from this and other threads, people can go off on tangents at the drop of a hat, and before you know it your thread is hijacked, and we end up talking about someone's wife's cousin's sister who used to work in a mailroom somewhere in some insignificant company and spent her time filling the signing machine with fresh pens.
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