Jan Mickelson ridicules people who meditate for peace

[donsu]

saw him on c-span's Washington Journal this a.m.

he is an Iowa radio show host and he was joking and ridiculing Maharishi (sp) university people for sitting on pillows and meditating for peace. said Kucinich was in the right company when he visited the univ. he also lumped the Amish in with them. apparently praying for peace is ok, he didn't ridicule that.

what a jerk.

[Fovea]

1. Hope he doesn't meet me.

I believe in kicking people in the nuts for peace.

[slor]

2. He was a jerk...

but I do like that he did not vote for dumbya.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. He just doesn't get it.

Remember, don't throw pearls before swine. This is one reason many mystics don't talk of their spiritual practices and what the outcome of such practices are. People like this 'explain' away any mystical experience while ridiculing the practitioners. They don't get it, and don't want to get it. We Sufis have a saying, "Don't wake up a sleeping man." My own addition, "If you try, you may find yourself involved in his nightmare."

[loftycity]

4. Never tell

You are so right in "Don't wake the sleeping man."
I know Dennis (who is my favorite) is in for a hard road. They will go after him and ridicule him to no end...involved in their night mare...

[sweetheart]

10. Yet we are a nation of mystics

And by leaving the public media common to be dominated by fundie xtians we do mystics no service.

Whilst i wholly agree with the sentiment that mysticism cannot be discussed, it is our folly to try or be erased entirely from the american culture.

We are in "the man's" nightmare already. :)

namaste,
-s

[buycitgo]

5. I saw that smug prick

he's a FAR right wing talkjock, who has admitted to being farther right than the Christian coalition!

my sister, who lives in Cedar Rapids, where he has one of his shows, listens very occasionally, and says the guy's just a low-rent Limbaugh wannabe

I tried to get in to confront the stupid host/guest on his wingedness, to no avail

amazing that they have FAR right commentators giving their opinions during the dem primary, isn't it?

wonder if they'll have, say Joe Conason, on Wednesday to review the SOTU?

this is what I'm talking about, from 1995......implications are frightening, cause it's been happening for a LONG time now, at the local level. look at the names/numbers involved

http://www.skepticfiles.org/fw/desmoine.htm

Ever since the Christian Coalition seized control
of the Iowa Republican Party last year, even local
politics here have taken a sharp turn to the right.
With the state's bellwether caucuses looming in the
upcoming presidential election year, a local issue
can take on national proportions — especially if tweaked
by powerful interest groups — which is what happened
when Jonathan Wilson, a respected 12-year veteran of
the Des Moines school board, announced his bid for
re-election after it became publicly known that he
is gay.

.........

In March of last year, less than a year before Wilson
announced his candidacy for another term on the school
board, full-time Christian right activist Bill Horn
moved his wife and five kids with him from California
to Altoona, a Des Moines suburb, to open the "Midwest
regional office" of The Report, an offshoot of the
Rev. Ty Beeson's Springs of Life Ministries based in
Horn's home state. (It was in Beeson's church that
the Rev. Jim Bakker, after being defrocked in the wake
of his sex and financial scandals, was ordained, again,
as a minister.) Before his move to the corn belt, Horn's
claim to fame was the 19-minute hate video, "The Gay
Agenda," which he produced under Beeson's wing. Filled
with sexually explicit footage and discredited statistics,
the tape first made waves when it found its way to
the joint chiefs of staff during the debate on gays
in the military in the early days of the Clinton administration.

An early booster of Horn's video career was James Dobson,
Ph.D., the sociologist who heads the Focus on the Family
media empire based in Colorado Springs. "The Gay Agenda"
had an earlier, cruder, precursor, first aired in 1991
as a segment of The Report's cable TV show. Dobson
snapped up some 8,000 copies of Horn's "Sexual Orientation
or Sexual Deviation: You Decide" and arranged to have
them distributed throughout California. But Horn's
biggest break came when Pat Robertson pitched "The
Gay Agenda" in February 1993 on his daily television
show, "The 700 Club," which claims more than a million
viewers. So far, Horn says he's sold hundreds of thousands
of copies of "The Gay Agenda" at $13.95 a pop, and
has since followed it up with two more anti-homosexual
video screeds. His success allowed Horn, a 36-year-old
former sportscaster, to quit his job and become a full-time
activist.

Back in Des Moines at WHO radio, the station that launched
Ronald Reagan's broadcast career, local right-wing
Christian shock jock Jan Mickelson introduced Horn
to his dittoheads during the "don't ask, don't tell"
debate. It wasn't long before Horn made his move to
the heartland. Horn had barely plunked down in Iowa
when, around Christmas 1994, school district employee
Tom Lutz used his office fax to leak to Horn an early
draft of a proposal for infusing information about
sexual orientation in Des Moines' progressive multicultural
curriculum. Mickelson, for whom hot buttons are stock
in trade, put Horn and the proposal out over the airwaves,
causing Pat Buchanan, presidential hopeful and the
wannabe poster-boy of the Christian right, to denounce
the curriculum proposal as "a moral lie."

this is how they've gotten control of the school boards

and CSPAN choose a cretin like this guy to give his "analysis"

[donsu]

7. yes, they infiltrate school boards which hold a lot of power

you have it made if you can get on a school board. and that's the problem, getting on the school board. think payoffs.

[kodi]

6. its where john hagelin (natural law party) is located, who supports dennis

kucinich has the support of the past presidential candidate of the natural law party, john hagelin, and they are good friends. hagelin has supported kucinch for a while and much of what kucinich supports are issues that the natural law party espouses.

as an ex-NLP who has moved mainstream, kucinich espouses most of the issues i hold dear.

[enki23]

8. i do too.

but it isn't because i don't want peace. it's because meditating on pillows means you have your ass glued to a god damned pillow. if praying and meditating worked, we wouldn't have celebrities endorsing a "free tibet." here in the samsaric (real) world, meditating accomplishes approximately jack shit.

maybe if they placed their pillows in front of some tanks or television cameras. though, frankly, meditators don't have a whole lot of influence over public opinion, no matter *how* much airtime they might get. best they can do is add weight to a protest by bringing their imaginary physical bodies and pushing up the turnout numbers.

still, the guy's probably an asshole for plenty of *other* opinions, not least the likely opinion he holds in favor of this particular preemptive war.

[donsu]

9. enki23 it's the ridicule part that makes him a jerk

nt