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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:05 PM
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Ok. What Does Bush* Know About Space, Exploration, Science, Etc..???
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 06:06 PM by matcom
now that i can do this,

WHAT IN THE FUCK does he know about robotics, space flight, time tables for NASA, realistic expectations, "the heavens", the Space Shuttle or THE WORLD ACCORDING TO SCIENCE AND NOT THE BIBLE???????????

:puke:

sorry. a failing student giving another failing "book report" on what others tell him
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:07 PM
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1. He probably knows that the Man in the Moon ...
eats the green cheese thats there.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:10 PM
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2. He knows that:
Lockheed leads the defense industry in lobbying expenditures. Lockheed Martin made over $10.6 million in campaign contributions to candidates and party committees from 1990 to 2000, including $3.4 million in donations in the run-up to the year 2000 elections.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:12 PM
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3. ding, ding ding!
We have a winner! :toast:

Bush doesn't know s*** about space, but he understands money and politics very well....or, at least Rove does.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:15 PM
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4. It was pointed out in the last space disaster
that * can't recall ever visiting the NASA space center in Houston – even while governor. He just couldn't remember whether he'd ever been there, even as a kid growing up in Texas.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:34 PM
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15. He knew enough to give the Green Light for the first attempt.
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minto grubb Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:16 PM
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6. It tells us an awful lot...
About Bush. here is a man who said that it was 'not in America's economic interests' to ratify the Kyoto Agreement. It would cost 3 trillion dollars.
Ok. There you have it. Planet Earth not worth saving. America has 4% of the world's population, but produces over 20% of the world's 'green house gas' emmisions. But putting it right would cost 3 billion bucks, so forget it.
On the other hand, sticking the stars and stripes on a barren ball of rock, well Bush is uo for that, even at a projected cost of 3 billion bucks.
America, if you let him do it, history - and the rest of us - will never forgive you.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:24 PM
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7. Planet Claire has pink air
All the trees are red
No one ever dies there
No one has a head

:)
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:04 PM
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21. She drove a Plymouth Satellite ...
Faster than the speed of light
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:25 PM
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8. He knows it will be good for the aerospace contractors
And will drain money from the real scientists, who are always troubling him by making him think.

--Peter
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:29 PM
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9. And one more thing.
He wants us to think that everything is going so well domestically and abroad that he has the luxury of coming up with pet projects, sorta like a hobby.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:35 PM
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16. touche!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:37 PM
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10. Some interesting Bushisms and other things in that speech
...I welcome those who are listening by video.


BUSH: Perhaps, Commissioner, you'll bring him by -- Administrator, you'll bring him by the Oval Office when he returns so I can thank him in person.


I also know he is in space with his colleague, Alexander Kaleri, who happens to be a Russian, a cosmonaut. I appreciate the joint efforts of the Russians with our country to explore.


I appreciate so very much the members of Congress being here. Tom Delay is here,


I am honored that you all have come. I appreciate your interest in this subject. It is a subject that is...
(LAUGHTER)
It's a subject that's important to this administration.



We may discover resources on the moon or Mars that will boggle the imagination, that will test our limits to dream.



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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:40 PM
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11. Uh, Renewable energy sources, anyone?
When's the last time you heard Shrub mention that? It's time to admit it; our president is criminally insane.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 06:50 PM
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12. Nothing.
He has degrees in History and Business, yet he does not seem to understand those subjects either.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:32 PM
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14. He is a MUFI:::::::: Misinformed Undereducated Feebleminded Individual
The odds are against wise decisions from Lolo Leaders selected by Lolo Voters who use Emotion in decision making.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:37 PM
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17. Daddy paid for that degree so why shouldn't he have them?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:29 PM
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13. What would really be interesting to know.
Is how long this "grand vision" has been on George's radar screen.

I figure they've been focused on this since just after O'Neil's book announcement broke.

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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:39 PM
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18. Its been on the radar since at least September 2000
Bush's space plans have as much to do with exploration as the war in Iraq had to do with weapons of mass destruction!

Remember the Project for the New American Century's September 2000 report titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses; Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century"? It is where these arrogant SOB's told us exactly what they were going to do. They're not content with just a world empire - they want to control the cosmos as well.

Here is what they have to say about space:

First under Key Findings in the Introduction (page v of the document, page 12 of the online PDF version):

CONTROL THE NEW "INTERNATIONAL COMMONS" OF SPACE AND "CYBERSPACE," and pave the way for the creation of a new military service - U.S. Space Forces - with the mission of space control.

They elaborate in Chapter V, "CREATING TOMORROW'S DOMINANT FORCE" (starts on page 50 of the document, page 62 of the PDF version).

In general, to maintain American military preeminence that is consistent with the requirements of a strategy of American global leadership, tomorrow's U.S. armed forces must meet three new missions:

(Second mission)
Control of space and cyberspace. Much as control of the high seas - and the protection of international commerce - defined global powers in the past, so will control of the new "international commons" be a key to world power in the future. An American incapable of protecting its interests or that of its allies in space or the "infosphere" will find it difficult to exert global political leadership.

They go on to elaborate further on each of the three missions, with Space and Cyberspace beginning on page 54 of the document (page 66 of the PDF format).

Incidentally, this is the section where they say "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor." (top of left column, page 51 of the document, page 53 of the PDF format)

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Spread the word! Don't let the media puppets get away with their endless comparisons of Bush to JFK on the space issue.

Btw, they talk about having to protect cyberspace for "national security" too. They don't go on about it like they do space, but I bet they are revising that section privately now that they know how well we can organize with the internet.
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Cappadonna Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:55 PM
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19. Reminds of that old Gil Scott Heron poem-- Whitey On the Moon
We have humoungous deficits, a healthcare crisis, energy crisis under funded schools, insane Moslem hordes ready to kill us and skyrocketing unemployment, but Bush wants to go to the moon?! While President Buzz Lightyear flies to infinity and beyond, the socioeconomic conditions that made mid-80's inner cities such hell holes are rapidly returning and spreading to the so-called heartland. If this isn't enough to get this nitwit out of office, I don't know what is.

As to what he knows, Bush probably was watching a few too many episodes of Babylon 5. He probably took the Yale intro Astronomy class where passing requires writing a 10 page paper on how a telescope works-- he probably had to pay someone to do that much. I wouldn't be surprise of Bush asked Bechtel and Lockheed Martin to rebuild the Voltron force. Remember, our secretary of Death, Darth Rummy, wants to build killer cyborgs a post-nuclear winter battle royale. These people are both ignorant and crazy.

But in all seriousness, this comes back to the old Cold War race for space dominance. He's starting up star wars all over again, using wild technology that can't possible be for its PR spin but will do just dandy in what its design to do. In other words, Reagan's space guns were never meant or design to destroy missles, but to level entire cities in milliseconds

Bush is just contiuning the imperialist leanings of Pappy Bush and the rest of the Nixonite hanger-ons and Reagan handlers. Globally dominance under the guise of defense and guild of mankind. But instead of keeping the ruskies from taking over the moon, we're making sure that SBC Global and WorldCom can set up satellites for cellphones and cable TV, all protected by US taxpayers. And, we're making sure that we keep those pesky brown people in check if they happen to all uppidity about such things as US corporate dominance over their own natural resources.

Ain't it just grand?!


Till Next Time-
Cappa
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:01 PM
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20. Jesus told Robertson who told Falwell who told
Bennett who told chimp that the enemy would come from space and chimp jr wants to put a couple of extras on the flight, like a laser weapon or a faux news satellite.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:16 PM
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23. Sorry Gil ...
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 08:18 PM by bigtree
Bush on the Moon - adapted from Gil-Scott Heron's (1972) song



A rat done bit my sister Nell with Bush on the moon.

Her face and arms began to swell and Bush on the moon.

I can't pay no doctor bills but Bush on the moon.

Ten years from now I'll be payin' still while Bush on the moon.



The man just upped my rent last night cuz Bush on the moon.

No hot water, no toilets, no lights but Bush on the moon.

I wonder why he's uppin me. Cuz Bush on the moon?

I was already givin' him fifty a week but now Bush on the moon.



Taxes takin' my whole damn check,

The junkies makin' me a nervous wreck,

The price of food is goin' up,

And as if all that shit wasn't enough:



A rat done bit my sister Nell with Bush on the moon.

Her face and arms began to swell but Bush on the moon.

Was all that money I made last year for Bush on the moon?

How come there ain't no money here? Hmm! Bush on the moon.



Ya know, I just about had my fill of Bush on the moon.

I think I'll send these doctor bills

airmail special....

to Bush on the moon.


http://www.geocities.com/redgiantsite/whitey.html
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:09 PM
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22. He heard that the Romulans,
might have rape rooms. These projects will go as far as the Freedom CAR, in other words nowhere. He wants us to think that he's interested in more than tax welfare for the rich,football, and using the military as a toy to blow up third world countries.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:19 PM
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24. Nothing, so?
This whole moon/mars thing is just a campaign stop.

I'm very much in favor of a revitalized space program. A date of 2015 is a joke. How about 2008 , 2010 even?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:25 PM
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25. I don't think Martians
will be so willing to part with their $ for a picture with Cheney.
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:30 PM
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26. Nothing, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...
NT
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:46 PM
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28. hehehe cute.....
Superfly.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:45 PM
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27. Ah come on now........
I heard he had those stick 'em on stars, planets and moon that glow in the dark on his and Laura's bedroom ceiling at home. Doesn't that qualify him?:shrug:
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