O'neills revelations are the dagger through the heart.

[Must_B_Free]

Mark my words.

They can't spin this one.

MSNBC is trying to focus your atention on O'neill's "betrayal" instead of Bush's abuse of the office and Cheney's aggrandizement.

Other things they have ben able to escape from, but this is like O'neill has them pinned to the floor with a dagger and they can't move. They are stuck.

I love it that a guy like O'neill can stick the ultimate wrench in their works and then say "I'm old and I'm rich and there's nothing you can do to hurt me"...

It is like the older sibling bringing the playground bully back down to size.

This thing is going to fall so hard, I think the pardoned reganites are finally going to be brought to justice. Think of how it started as a trickle just after "Mission Complete" and now the Bush admin is wallowing in the troubles they brought on themselves.

I just don't see any escape from this... The Bush followers have been asked time and time again to eat outrageous lies and every time they do it... it's somewhat demeaning to them. And each new fantasy they are asked to swallow is harder and harder than the last. Almost as if you had a cheating lover ahd were continually trying to make yourself ignore the tell tale signs of of an affair. At some point it becomes too much.

[cavebat2000]

1. I hope you are right

We need to push this as far as it can go... to the impeachment of Bush.

[Carl21014]

2. I just don't see how?

The GOP controls both houses of congress, the Supreme Court, and the media!

They will stone wall, congress will whitewash, and the media will move along to Michael Jackson.

[Bandit]

7. By calling this a betrayal they are admitting there is something to be

Betrayed over.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

3. exactly what i think

The mess is so big, so complete, it can't be spun.

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Bingo!

eom

[proud patriot]

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[priller]

5. While extremely damaging, it's already being spun

The cable news whores are consistently reporting that Rove spin, that it was merely a contingency plan, that ridding Iraq of Saddam had been a goal since Clinton was pres, etc, etc.

Of course, that spin conveniently ignores the aspects that were so troubling to O'Neill: that their plans were so completely different from the what candidate Bush promised, and that the notion of pre-emption was a "huge leap" from normal US policy.

[salinen]

6. When the day comes where

* eats a live baby, then you will know that this administration can do anything they want. The country is theirs.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

8. The lazy media is the key here.

And this makes O'Neill's revelations that much more poignant. That is to say, the work has already been done, by a journalist, Ron Suskind, from the Wall Street Journal. All the documentation is there. They can call on O'Neill, and I'm sure he'll be more than happy to clear his name after being slimed. His look on 60 Minutes was priceless when Stahl asked him if he was ready for the administartion's anger. "Why would they be angry?" I think he was being quite sincere in his ignorance of their heated response. You know Suskind won't mind showing his mug on T.V. Pages and pages of documentation and connecting the dots have already been done for these lazy clowners, by another journalist.

I know, I know, some here will say that "it's been done before, so why is this different?" I think it's different because 1) the dots have been connected for these lazt whores in a book. This puts the admin. on the defensive; 2) the media will already have its talking points laid out for them (which, of course, will be countered by the admin.'s talking points); 3) it's a "real" journalist who's penned this thing. As much as Conason's book is amazing, it's still written by Conason, a so-called Clinton apologist. This book is done from the inside by a Wall Street Journal journalist.

If the book is creating this much buzz just from O'Neill's interview, wait until the documents are released and the lazy press can just cite things from the book. Now it will be the dems. job to make sure the correct passages are put out there . . . again and again and again and again and . . . .

[cthrumatrix]

16. "lazy media" or "muzzled media"....any reporter with their salt

would "love to break the big one"...do the grunt work of interviews and come out with an exclusive.

Today's news is "measured"...not to much investigation going on...unless you have Rove looking at multi-year old tapes to find out what Dean said on TV about the Iowa Caucus.

Shameful, disgusting, complicit.....either way their behavior has allowed shrub to go to war ..and in doing so...1000's of people are dead...for what?

[Cat Atomic]

9. Do you suppose the press reaction to O'Neil is waking anyone up

to conservative media bias? It's really pretty amazing the way they're all chewing this guy up. Like a school of pirahna.

O'Neil's book is apparently selling very well. Alot of people *will* actually get O'Neil's story, and I wonder if that will change their view of the media that told them to ignore it?

[Terwilliger]

10. of the Democratic party?

This story is going nowhere...do you have evidence to suggest otherwise?

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

14. Well, this item will surely sink Bush then.

Rumor has it that he was wearing earth tones when the order to invade Iraq was given in 2001. Earth tones, people, EARTH TONES. God help Bush if the documents reveal this.

[westman]

11. It really feels good, but

every administration has military contingency plans for virtually any conceivable event. The fact that a plan existed for Iraq comes as no surprise. There were probably similar plans for Bolivia, Bangladesh, and Canada (slight sarcasm).

[blindpig]

12. but they'll try to ignore it

NOTHING in the local facist rag about this!

[salinen]

15. It's one thing to have contingency plans

and quite another to act on them. "Blame Clinton", the mantra of cowards.