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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:19 AM
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Taipei Times: UN in Iraq would let GWB off the hook
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2003/09/03/2003066333

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The US government's problem is that it has built its foreign policy on two great myths. The first is that it is irresistible; the second is that as time advances, life improves. In Iraq it is trapped between the two. To believe that it can be thwarted, and that its occupation will become harder rather than easier to sustain as time goes by, requires that it disbelieves all that it holds to be most true.

But those who oppose its foreign policy appear to have responded with a myth of equal standing: that what unilateralism cannot solve, multilateralism can. The UN, almost all good liberals now argue, is a more legitimate force than the US and therefore more likely to succeed in overseeing Iraq's reconstruction and transition.

If the US surrendered to the UN, this would, moreover, represent the dawning of a fairer, kinder world. These propositions are scarcely more credible than those coming out of the Pentagon.

The immediate and evident danger of a transition from US occupation to UN occupation is that the UN becomes the dustbin into which the US dumps its failed adventures. The American and British troops in Iraq do not deserve to die any more than the Indian or Turkish soldiers with whom they might be replaced. But the governments that sent them, rather than those that opposed the invasion, should be the ones that have to answer to their people for the consequences."

"The UN will swiftly discover that occupation-lite is no more viable than occupation-heavy. Moreover, by replacing its troops, the despised UN could, in one of the supreme ironies of our time, provide the US government with the escape route it may require if George Bush is to win the next election. We can expect him, as soon as the soldiers have come home, to wash his hands not only of moral responsibility for the mess he has created, but also of the duty to help pay for the country's reconstruction. Most importantly, if the UN shows that it is prepared to mop up after him, it will enhance his incentive to take his perpetual war to other nations."

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:23 AM
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1. this article...
...has changed my thinking on what should be done in Iraq. I have no desire to allow George to dump his problems just in time for the election.

Internationalizing the peace is a trap.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:25 AM
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2. Totally agree
If everytime something goes wrong it gets dumped on the UN for clean-up...that will only encourage more messes.

Bush did it...let him deal with the consequences.

He's been bailed out all his life.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 01:30 AM
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3. Bush doesn't deal with the problem...we do.
Unfortunately, once he decided to send troops into Iraq it became an ugly mess. Much like Humpty Dumpty, once broken, Iraq is going to be very difficult, if not impossible to put back together. This is what the Bush team never understood. Now, we're all left holding the bag. We can't stay and we can't go and we can't keep paying for it in either case...

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NickDanger Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 03:34 AM
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6. The problem is people are dying, Iraqi and American
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 02:25 AM
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4. Wow! This is powerful stuff.
Monbiot has made a supremely potent argument here. This is the kind of piece that can influence governments around the world.

He has analyzed the situation with perfect precision.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 02:30 AM
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5. Ah, another George Monbiot piece--excellent!
He mentioned a plan set out by World Citizen Foundation and Troy Davis, so I googled and found that Davis has several articles on this subject. And I am reproducing the whole of a WCF proposal from APRIL!! If only someone in the WH or Pentagon had read this and recognized its wisdom. The listing of events that led them to write such a proposal is instructive--it's easy to forget the events of even so short a time ago, and they are being repeated on a larger scale today....

Troy Davis--What Iraq needs (several essays--all worth reading!)
http://troydavis.blogspot.com/


World Citizen Foundation, the Democracy Engineers' think-tank -
http://www.worldcitizen.org/

<<<Building Iraqi Democracy

Text for opinion piece (800 words), can be freely used, 2 April 2003.

The war was easy. Now comes the hard part: winning the peace. It is even more true since winning the peace means making an unlikely and unprecedented democratic process work.

Unfortunately, US plans are too slow and timid, and at the same time, too opaque and partisan. Chaos is the consequence of no one legitimate in charge and a process not perceived as legitimate:
- First anti-US demonstrations occur in Baghdad.
- Two Shiite leaders are killed by a mob in a mosque in Najaf, the world’s holiest Shia city
- US-sanctioned meetings of arbitrarily chosen Iraqis in Nassyria are the target of angry demonstrations
- Looters rob and pillage Baghdad and Basra, vandalize museums, and destroy humanity’s heritage.
- Militias defend stores and houses (Saddam distributed 2 M guns to Baghdadis)
- Kurds enter Kirkouk in defiance of Turkish warnings that this would be a casus belli. (There need be only acts of retribution against Turcomans for explosive consequences).

Iraqis want to see progress towards a government now - not in 6 months’s time. What are present plans? Europe has no concrete plans apart from abstract principles and a «central role » for the U.N.

The U.S. (via M. Wolfowitz) says it is a 3-step process. The actual building of the government is supposed to occur by some unexplained process after numerous « regional meetings » of arbitrarily selected Iraqis. Then, again by some magic wand and under arbitrary ground rules, a provisional constitution is written, local elections are held. Finally national elections for a real constitutional convention occur. During that time, General Garner is Viceroy of Iraq and arbitrarily selected Iraqis run parallel ministries.

This is a recipe for anger, envy, resentment and corruption. It is the worst possible way of building a democracy which must be perceived as clean, fair, open and legitimate. This bumbling already feeds anti-democratic and anti-American rethoric.

This plan has many problems:
· It is contrived and complicated.
· It is too slow and leisurely.
· It is already fiercely contested on the ground.
· It weakens the prospects for a widely legitimate authority that can prevent chaos.
· It forgets that there has not been true dialogue among Iraqi political movement at least for 30 years
· It forgets the need for a cathartic process – a process that will heal divisions and create national reconciliation between locals and exiles.

Those plans put the cart before the horse and forget the most important in democracy-building: the consent of the governed. Representative self-government means the People must believe in the legitimacy of the process.

The solution is not to let the bureaucratic UN run the show. The best solution may look like a compromise, but it is the best anyway.

It is a simple bold idea : immediately organize a constitutional convention, which would also serve as Iraq’s first forum for national democratic dialogue. (This might produce national political catharsis in a country desperately in need of it.)

The participants should be delegates from all ethnic and religious groups, all political parties inside and outside Iraq. Better have ‘too many’ delegates than too few. Iraqi, regional, and global stability are at that price.

For credibility’s sake, it should not be convened by the US alone, but jointly with the UK, France, Germany and Russia, with the EU and UN as observers (and with help from democracy engineering consultants). It is important for global credibility that the USA magnanimously allow antiwar governments to co-sponsor it. This will help President Bush defend his claims that the US has no imperial designs and is not in Iraq to colonize it.

Out of selfish interest to spread political risk, the US should allow others to co-sponsor the political convention even if it decides to punish them economically. The political convention is a separate issue from reconstruction contracts. But France and Germany could be asked to pick up the entire tab. The co-sponsors could include Turkey and Iran to increase regional commitment to a free, sovereign and united Iraq.

To maximize credibility and minimize manipulation, it should be totally open to the media. There might be 500 delegates but thousands of journalists. It should be broadcast live on Iraqi TV. Tens of millions worldwide, especially Muslims, will follow a riveting political reality show.

Congress should vocally support this proposal. It is not unpatriotic to propose a broad-based, open constitutional process. It is quintessentially fair and should prove more popular than today’s complicated plan.

The convention could start on 25 May in a nod to 25 May 1787 when the Founders met in Philadelphia. It took Americans over 3 months to create their constitution. If the aim is truly to create the first Arab democracy, don’t the Iraqis deserve today as much time as the Americans had 216 years ago?


Historical note:

25 May 1787: Constitutional Convention assembles in Philadelphia
26 July: start of recess (2 months later, lasts 10 days))
6 August: start of second session
17 September: Approval of the final constitution, delegates sign it and Convention adjourns.
Total time: 3 months and 3 weeks with a recess of 10 days>>>




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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 05:36 AM
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7. Fun to read Free Rep as they are doing a real dance over there
Why would the UN come in? Why would other countries, but the ones we have paid to come in, do it?Only USA is so stuped it would put itself in debt so some dim wit could get voted into office. If I came in I would make Bush beg. This is so he will not have to face the voter with a debt as big as a mountain and a death every day. If we did not have to stand in his mess with him I would say I hope no one takes him up on this. Every Dem that voted for this war should be voted out by us. They sold us out as they were all worried about the flag wrapping so many were doing at that time. Who had any guts? Do we have a list on the ones that did not hand over their power? I knew my Rep did not vote for it. Can you bring up a list we could have?
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 11:48 PM
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8. While I agree , in theory
about voting everyone out who supported the war, I think the important thing (which I don't see discussed much at DU) is to vote ALL the repugs out.It will do us no good to get rid of bush if we have repugs in control of Congress AND the supreme court. I wish we could make JUST those who supported the war pay. It really pisses me off to have to pay for something I so strongly opposed. Getting to say 'I told you so' just doesn't do it...
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 06:55 AM
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9. Why would other countries
I think you answered your own question. Those troops from El Salvador and Poland aren't in Iraq out of a sense of international duty. We paid them. Just like we'll be shoveling foreign aid to India and Turkey and the Philippines to replace our boys & girls with cannon fodder whose deaths won't be showing up on American headlines every day. Mercenary armies are the next stage of the occupation.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:00 PM
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10. Hi western mass!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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