Red State Schools

[donhakman]

[sui generis]

1. Here in Texas kids MUST recite the pledge of allegiance

unless they have a note from their parents "requesting" they be excused from reciting it.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. "Theofacsism" is alive and well!

:puke:

[John Q. Citizen]

3. There are no red states and there are no blue states

Unless you want to believe the mainstream media.....

[donhakman]

4. There was no Civil War

unless you want to believe old history books

[John Q. Citizen]

6. Speaking of the Civil War,

All the Southern States were Democrat after the war and all the North-East was Republican.

So what's your point?

If you care to look at the world as black and white instead of shades of grey, that's your problem.

I now live in Montana and I bet you a dollar our constitution is more liberal than yours.

Where are you from?

[DuaneBidoux]

7. I strongly suggest that you check out Retro vs. Metro

for some interesting stats on red vs. blue. Let's just say there are a lot of states that tend to vote Shrub, and they have shitty schools in general. And then lets just say there are a lot of states that tend to vote Dem, and they have good schools, in general.

Let just say there's a group of states that tend to vote Rethuglican, and they have produced in their entire history, 29 nobel prize winners. Let's just say there's a group of states that tend to vote Dem, and they have produced 450 nobel prize winners...

Call them what you want...red, blue, green, gold. There is a cluster of two groups of states, and they show opposite tendencies in excellence (or lack thereof).

[John Q. Citizen]

8. "Generalities aren't worth a damn, including that one."

Wasn't that Mark Twain who wrote that?

Uh Oh, Red Stater.

The Metro vs Retro tends to hold everywhere, no matter what state you look at.

And that's the point, 50% + 1 does not make an entire state somehow "inferior" or "superior."I was born and raised in a blue state that produced Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, and Arnold S.

What does that prove?

I now live in Montana, and we have the highest per capita production of Rhodes Scholars in the country. So what?

Dividing the country into "red' and "blue" states is ignorant and bigoted. It's divisive and plays into the hands of those who want to divide and conquer. Here's a Randy Nuemann song for you to ponder.


"Rednecks"
by Randy Newman

Last night I saw Lester Maddox on a TV show
With some smart-ass New York Jew
And the Jew laughed at Lester Maddox
And the audience laughed at Lester Maddox too

Well, he may be a fool but he's our fool
If they think they're better than him they're wrong
So I went to the park and I took some paper along
And that's where I made this song

We talk real funny down here
We drink too much and we laugh too loud
We're too dumb to make it in no Northern town
And we're keepin' the niggers down

We got no-necked oilmen from Texas
And good ol' boys from Tennessee
And colleges men from LSU
Went in dumb - come out dumb too
Hustlin' 'round Atlanta in their alligator shoes
Gettin' drunk every weekend at the barbecues
And they're keepin' the niggers down

CHORUS
We're rednecks, rednecks And we don't know our ass from a hole in the ground
We're rednecks, we're rednecks And we're keeping the niggers down

Now your northern nigger's a Negro
You see he's got his dignity
Down here we're too ignorant to realize
That the North has set the nigger free

Yes he's free to be put in a cage In Harlem in New York City
And he's free to be put in a cage in the South-Side of Chicago
And the West-Side
And he's free to be put in a cage in Hough in Cleveland
And he's free to be put in a cage in East St. Louis
And he's free to be put in a cage in Fillmore in San Francisco
And he's free to be put in a cage in Roxbury in Boston
They're gatherin' 'em up from miles around Keepin' the niggers down

[Demeter]

9. Sorry, But Mark Twain Moved To Connecticut

and stayed there. He was SMART, and knew enough to get out of the hole he was born in.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. Yeah, where he died bitter and broke if I recall,

but that's not the point of your post or mine.

Like it or not, there are plenty of assholes in so called blue states and there are plenty of great people in red states, and, visa-versa.

But for now, I'm done being trolled.

[DuaneBidoux]

10. I would be very insterested in the link to the Rhodes scholar data

I would also still check out Retro vs. Metro. It is a good book, and you're right 51% of the people changing a color doesn't mean a damn thing, which is why you don't find the real correlations until you get on the EXTREME ends--and then you see the truth. I learned in my systems analysis class that you take a system to the extreme when you want to truly understand the dynamic.

Among the states with the best SAT scores: Mass, Connecticut, NY
Also highest percentages for Kerry

Among the states with the worst SAT scores: Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama
Also among highest percentages for Bush

Take JUST these six states, and look at an entire variety of indicators, and you will find the same thing over and over. Sorry friend, it isn't coincidence. At the middle, yes, less conclusive. But the dynamic is there, and it speaks a load of truth backed by solid statistics, whether or not you wish to hear them.

Just check out the level of debate here...and then look at "Free Republic" and compare everything from grammar, to historic references (look at YOUR response--well reasoned, not full of invective, raising intelligent concerns), to whatever you wish. And deal with it, you're on the side that attracts the brightest people (who I grant you, can't seem to win an election if the world depended on it, which they did, and which we didn't). For you to not admit that they are dividing is to allow them to conquer. Get used to it. This is an enemy that is already dividing. You might be a nice Democrat (I used to be one too)--but check the news out today on Delay (MY congressman) and understand this IS an enemy--and they are nasty and they are corrupt. And they are playing for keeps now.

[Crassus]

11. Is recognizing a trend bigotry ?

"Dividing the country into "red' and "blue" states is ignorant and bigoted. It's divisive and plays into the hands of those who want to divide and conquer."

Is recognizing a trend, bigotry?

There is something essential going on in a state which always votes for a particular party candidate. This is something that is a choice, remember, not something that is prechosen.

I just don't see how you can use the label "bigot" to refer to the differences in philosophies between different groups of people.

Of course red state and blue state don't really mean as much as rural and urban voter do.

Still aren't you going a little far the other way yourself ?

[newyawker99]

13. Hi Crassus!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[HamdenRice]

5. How dare you!!!

insult the good skools and dedkated skool marms of hour red states. Mah teechers learnt me sum-n good in skool. The only difrunce betwen skools in red states and bloo states is that skools in red states don cater to no foolishnes like that we-uns is related to no monkies. And besides it dont matter how smart you-in is insolong as you got God almahty in yur hart!

[NuttyFluffers]

14. i like people with a sense of humor :)

you made me laugh. wait spelling it all hoity toity french-like.

yoo maid me laff. :evilgrin: