"Come let us reason together..."

[reprehensor]

"Come let us reason together..."

By: Jack Dalton

“All men having power ought to be mistrusted.” James Madison

“The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” James Madison, Federalist Paper 47

Shortly after George W. Bush unleashed the “Dogs of War” on Iraq last year, and right after an emerging insurgency started growing, Bush asked, “What’s the matter with those people; don’t they know how good we are?” And that right there is at the heart of what I see as a very big problem with so very many of my fellow American citizens—and one that in many ways is getting worse and not better.

Here in the U.S. there is a “deeply-held belief that no matter what this nations governing body does abroad, no matter how bad what it does may appear, no matter what horror may result, the American government means well;” That the government has good intentions and means well; And, generally speaking, the American public wonders why the rest of the world can’t see how “kind” and “generous” and “self-sacrificing” America is and has been. Unfortunately the road to hell is paved with “good intentions.”

My questions to my fellow American citizens are this: What for you would be too much? What would this nation’s government have to do in its foreign policy, or domestic policies, that would cause you to forsake your basic belief in and support for that governing body and its policies?

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[LisaLynne]

1. I don't know what it would take ...

for people to wake up. It's so ingrained in us that we are the "good guys". As free-thinking as I am, I still find myself being shocked at some of the things the government does and has done. And why should I be? It's hard to stop thinking of our country as "the good guys".

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2. Can't reason together if you don't assume the same axioms

Even mathematicians have to assume certain axioms in their proofs.

I think many people use their personal values as their axioms.

How do you reason those away?

[Carl Brennan]

3. Jim Jones little suicide cult in Guyana is where the Repugs are

heading. Doesn't mean they will all do it, but the mindset is quickly forming.