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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:44 PM
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A mole called Mega (Janes breaks news on the Israeli spy scandal)
mole called Mega

The scandal over a suspected Israeli mole in the Pentagon who allegedly passed highly sensitive policy documents on Iran to Israeli agents in Washington has rekindled suspicions long held by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and others in Washington, that Israel systematically spies on its strategic ally and benefactor.

The FBI probe currently under way goes far beyond the allegations that a lone analyst was providing the Israelis with US secrets.

Shortly before George Tenet retired as director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in June, he alleged that an Israeli agent was operating in Washington. Tenet was challenged to identify the agent but for reasons that were never explained apparently did not do so. For years, the FBI has been convinced that there is at least one high-level Israeli mole in Washington.

The Tenet episode underlined growing unease in some quarters in Washington about the influence that Israel's right wing has in US President George W Bush's administration through the pro-Likud neo-conservatives, largely in the Pentagon, and the politically powerful America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and loosely associated organisations, such as the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. The Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence service, is known to seek out Jews around the world to serve as informal agents, known in Hebrew as sayanim or 'helpers'.

http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr040929_1_n.shtml
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:45 PM
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1. Puh. Israel spying on the U.S. And this is news?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:52 PM
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2. have they cross-checked the roster
with PNAC?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:54 PM
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3. That would be too easy
Just going down the list, Perle and Feith have long been suspected of spying for Israel (and almost got caught back in the 80's when Pollard was busted).
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:54 PM
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4. Psssst! The Mossad have been known to torture people
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 02:54 PM by Rambis
I agree this is news?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 02:59 PM
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5. It sure as hell should be NEWS.
This should be front page and lead story shit, and it is swept under the rug.

Like you are sweeping it under the rug with your dismissive bullshit.

It's not NEW but IT IS NEWS. It's the most significant news possible. It defines our foreign affairs in a way that is completely counterproductive to the good of The People.

So why do you not think this is news?

It's pretty incredible that Janes is coming out with it. That alone is news.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 08:39 AM
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24. Maybe that was sarcasm?
Not like it isn't something we who read haven't known or suspected for a long time. What should be news is that nothing is done about it.
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:02 PM
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6. Solution: Kick the Neo-cons out of Washington! eom
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:06 PM
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7. Doesn't this bring back memories of Conn Gov. McGreevey's friend that
was connected with Israel? There were quite a few threads here on DU showing that his background could be Mossad. And, the story died.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:15 PM
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8. The story didn't DIE, it was MURDERED.
Why do you think that is?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:17 PM
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9. Hopefully someone made the connection....like the FBI that's supposedly
investigating AIPAC and Franklin, Feith and the rest of the "backroom operation."

Hell, I hope McGreevey made the connection and called for his own investigation on the Q.T. I would have...if my whole career was down the tubes...
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:30 PM
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10. Died a deserved death.
Are you suggesting Golan Cipel was a "honey pot?" Puh-leaze. Why take a real story about a real live Mossad mole and make yourself look silly by suggesting that the dumb, tawdry McGreevey story is somehow connected? I could just wish that poor McGreevey was the innocent victim of a vast Mossad conspiracy to lure democratic governors into homosexual affairs in order to further the vast zionist conspiracy, hell, that would be less embarrassing to the state and to the state democratic party, but its a little far-fetched, isn't it?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:41 PM
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12. Golan Cipel
was a foreign national placed in charge of New Jersey's homeland security, who compromised the governor and dashed overseas once the scandal broke.

Intelligence agencies have been using sex, especially gay sex, as a lure for decades. The suggestion merits more consideration than a sniffing "Puh-leaze."
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 03:30 PM
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11. The spies who pushed for war.
The Tenet episode underlined growing unease in some quarters in Washington about the influence that Israel's right wing has in US President George W Bush's administration through the pro-Likud neo-conservatives, largely in the Pentagon, and the politically powerful America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and loosely associated organisations, such as the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. The Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence service, is known to seek out Jews around the world to serve as informal agents, known in Hebrew as sayanim or 'helpers'.





The Spies who Pushed for War
The Guardian
July 17, 2003

<snip>

The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.

In 1996, he and Richard Perle - now an influential Pentagon figure - served as advisers to the then Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu. In a policy paper they wrote, entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, the two advisers said that Saddam would have to be destroyed, and Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would have to be overthrown or destabilised, for Israel to be truly safe.


www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:28 AM
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17. Two kinds of Neocon
The ideologue and the opportunist.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/ask_karl_1.html

Lets discuss.

Stephen Pitt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:24 PM
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13. Plame=forged Niger documents= neocon spy scandal
It's one story, and it gives people on the democratic left the opportunity to communicate the extent of the criminal behaviors of the core of the Bush administration to the general public. This is the scandal that could convince a significant number of Americans to vote against Bush.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:50 PM
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14. Peter Lance, Author, "Cover Up": What the Government is Still Hiding
Watch this interview. You won't be disappointed

Talks about Patrick Fitzgerald U.S. Attorney working on the Joseph Wilson Plame case had been involved in the TWA case cover up
starting at 15:00 minutes into interview

Connects Oklahoma bombings

9/11 report a complete whitewash

http://www.cspan.org/VideoArchives.asp?CatCodePairs=,&A...

Peter Lance, Author, "Cover Up"
Peter Lance, author of "Cover Up: What the Government is Still Hiding about the War on Terror," discusses information missed by the 9/11 Commission and the Bush administration in the investigations of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
9/27/2004: WASHINGTON, DC: 45 min.



COVER UP: WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
IS STILL HIDING ABOUT THE WAR ON TERROR

Writer's Write Interview
1115.org Interview
Court TV Catherine Crier Live Interview REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Fox News Rita Cosby Interview REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Bo Deitel Imus Interview Part One REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Bo Deitel Imus Interview Part Two REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Fox and Friends Interview Part One REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Fox and Friends Interview Part Two REAL MEDIA // WINDOWS MEDIA
Up in the Air: Did terrorists destroy TWA Flight 800?
Warren Report-Watergate II: Cover Up Review
Did Yousef order airliner's destruction?
The failure of our protective intelligence
9/11 Commission Nixed al-Qaida Link to Flight 800?
Writer accuses FBI of obstruction, cover-up
COVER UP HITS #12 ON AMAZON.COM NON-FICTION BESTSELLER LIST
Connecting the dots S.B. Writer Peter Lance Dismisses 9/11 Commission Report in Cover Up

http://www.peterlance.com /


TWA Flight 800 and the 9/11 Commission Cover Up


TWA Flight 800 and the 9/11 Commission Cover Up: An Interview With Peter Lance
by Claire E. White (September, 2004)

Was the 9/11 Commission Report a cover up? Were we lied to when we were told that 9/11 was the first time that Al-Qaeda hijacked and destroyed an American jetliner? Five time Emmy® award-winning investigative journalist
Journalist Peter Lance
and bestselling author Peter Lance asserts just that in his blockbuster new book Cover Up: What the Government is Still Hiding About the War on Terror (HarperCollins). In his 2003 bestselling nonfiction work, 1000 Years for Revenge (HarperCollins), Lance laid bare the plotting and events that led to the terrorist attacks of 9/11. After reading 1000 Years for Revenge, Governor Kean, Co-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, asked Peter Lance to testify in front of the Commission. His story of his experiences with the Commission and the 9/11 widows is absolutely fascinating.

So far, Lance's new book, Cover Up: What The Government Is Still Hiding About The War On Terror, a meticulously researched and entertainingly written expose, has been embraced by the right, the left and the middle. Partisan interests seem to see the facts that Lance has brought to light through the lens of their beliefs. Lance has already appeared on Fox News, CNN and many other major news programs to discuss his insights. Lance lays out the amazing blunders and cover ups which began in the Clinton Administration and which continue to this day with officials in the current Department of Justice. As a journalist, Lance says he is just following the trail of facts regardless of where they lead. He is adamant that "If we are truly to be safe, we have to de-politicize the debate over terrorism." But his trail of incendiary facts would seem to have some major political implications -- especially in an election year. Lance provides evidence that Ramzi Yousef, the Al-Qaeda perpetrator of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was likely responsible for the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996, with the help of his uncle, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed -- the originator of the 9/11 plot. Lance also raises some disurbing questions about the events of 9/11 itself. For instance, it is not common knowledge that the morning of September 11, 2001, there were three war games simulations was taking place. One was being conducted near Dulles Airport in Washington to test the response of the National Reconnaissance Office in case a plane was flown into the NRO building. At the time of the attacks, two F-16s were actually in the air practicing bombing runs, within eight minutes flying time, yet they were never called by NORAD to intercept the attackers. The 9/11 Commission heard sworn testimony about these and many other facts, but failed to mention them in its Final Report which, generally speaking, did not place blame. In fact, much of the most important testimony was never made public, much to the anger of the "Jersey Girls," the 9/11 widows who lobbied for the creation of the 9/11 Commission.

Peter spoke with us about testifying in front of the 9/11 Commission and discusses some of the immensely disturbing facts he uncovered while writing Cover Up. He also addresses the growing threat of terrorism and why Americans need to be informed about the facts before the upcoming presidential election.

What was it like to testify in front of the 9/11 Commission?

This is a short question that will require a long answer. As one who had set out to do a book on the Commission’s work, my “testimony” before the Commission on March 15th was an eye opener.


......


I had sent my book to Governor Kean (the chairman) over Christmas and he had responded, saying that he wanted to hear my findings. I had only two conditions: first that I not be forced to reveal confidential sources and second, that my information be made a part of the permanent Commission record.
more
http://www.readersread.com/features/peterlance.htm



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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:06 AM
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15. Moles: Schmoles. The problem lies elsewhere.
Lets drop the pretense and make it brief. This...

http://www.light-to-dark.com/cantata_evangelica.html

...IS the mole.

Stephen Pitt
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:24 AM
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16. Incidently,
I have -again- contacted the forum moderator and asked why I'm not permitted to post.

What do they need here? One...ten pints of liberal blood before they clear their paranoia?

Look at my work. There's a campaign on the verge here. Time to pull the stops and let those that can contribute do so.

Now.

Stephen Pitt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:05 AM
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19. Excellent work Stephen
be patient, you can probably be eligible to post in 10 minutes if you try.
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:42 PM
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20. Patience


Thank you for looking and commenting! And, for the advice.

Stephen
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:07 AM
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18. Monica saved a stain for how long?
tell me she was not a "helper"

Noone saves a stain iunless they intend to use it.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:53 PM
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21. What do you mean by "helper?"
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 02:54 PM by geek tragedy
Surely you're not suggesting Monical Lewinsky is working for the Mossad.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:22 PM
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22. Assist. Sec. of Defense Feith - An Architect of Iraq War
In 1982 Douglas Feith was a Middle East analyst for the National Security Council. When Judge William Clark was appointed NSC Chief, he fired Feith. Reportedly, Feith was fired because he had been the subject of an FBI inquiry into whether, without authorization, he had provided classified information to a representative of the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C.

In 2004, guess who's office in the Defense Department the most recent Israel spy reportedly worked within? Answer: Feith

Guess which nation had the most to gain from the U.S. invasion of Iraq? Israel, because Hussein was actively supporting terrorists in Israel.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 05:34 PM
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23. What does that have to do with Monica Lewinsky? eom
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