Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How important is intent in art?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 08:53 AM
Original message
How important is intent in art?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2011/10/outsider-art



JAMES BRETT, the founder and curator of the "Museum of Everything", believes his two new shows are "the most important in Britain". This might seem like a bold claim, particularly as one exhibition is tucked in the basement of Selfridge's department store in central London, while another takes place in the artfully dilapidated Old Selfridge’s Hotel next door. Yet both the big show and the smaller retrospective of work by Judith Scott, a self-taught American artist who died in 2005 at 61, are indeed interesting, not least for Mr Brett's enthusiasm for them.

Mr Brett began the “Museum of Everything” in 2010, “by accident more than anything else,” he says. After travelling round South America and becoming taken by the Folk Art there (“unpretentious, immediate, and kind of cool”), he felt inspired to create his own curatorial enterprise showcasing "outsider art” without using the term. The result is “a museum that’s not a museum,” he says, which he markets with a distinctive brand of British eccentricity (sea-side red-and-white striped entrances, English-rose girls on the door). This mix of novelty and savvy has been an effective way to introduce the work of mostly unknown artists to a wider public.

By placing his latest show in a department store, Mr Brett says he is staging a “friendly attack on mainstream art criticism and curators”. It was a deliberate move to place Scott's work in “such a visible place as Selfridge's", given her own relative invisibility. Self-taught artists such as Scott, who was also born deaf, mute and with Down syndrome, don't get the recognition they deserve from the art establishment, says Mr Brett. The recent closure of the Folk Art Museum in New York seems to confirm his point.
Refresh | +7 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 09:28 AM
Response to Original message
1. Very interesting; but why not call it "outsider art"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 09:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. Back in the mid 90s I fundraised for a nonprofit helping people with mental retardation.
With the help of an art therapist, the clients were able to produce amazing art that was reproduced in yearly calendars and sold for the benefit of the organization. These calendars are testimony to the artistic impulse that exists within these "outsiders" to the art world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 09:58 AM
Response to Original message
3. "outsider art" sounds similar to "outsider music"
Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 09:59 AM by bananas
or maybe "outside music" looks a lot like "outside art"?

"Outsider music, a term coined by Irwin Chusid in the mid-1990s, are songs and compositions by musicians who are not part of the commercial music industry who write songs that ignore standard musical or lyrical conventions, either because they have no formal training or because they disagree with formal rules. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_music

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. The 90's were GREAT!
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Fascinating. Goodness knows the world is full of art snobs.

K&R

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 11:30 PM
Response to Original message
6. How important to whom?
http://www.cracked.com/article_19420_6-classic-songs-that-were-supposed-to-be-jokes.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_19419_6-parodies-that-succeeded-because-nobody-got-joke.html

If you, the consumer, don't think the artist's intent is important, then tough shit for the artist. They can't do anything about it even if they want to.

To enter into a relationship with the artist's intent seems to me to be an act of respect, a conscious entering into relationship with the artist. The other is rather like buying an artist's ceramic sculptures in order to crush them for a broken-pottery path in your garden. Should you tell them or not?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC