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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 02:59 PM
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Obama leads Perry, Romney in new poll
Published: 2:10 PM 09/13/2011
Updated: 2:16 PM 09/13/2011
By Alexis Levinson

... Obama beats all four of the GOP contenders that PPP included in its survey, but Romney holds him to the smallest lead; the former Massachusetts governor is also the only candidate to keep Obama from getting less than 50-percent support. Obama beats Bachmann by a 53–39 margin, and Rick Perry by only slightly less — 52 percent to 41 percent. Newt Gingrich performs similarly, losing to the president 41–53 ...

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/13/obama-leads-perry-romney-in-new-poll/
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:03 PM
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1. Maybe those weekly GOP farces they call debates are a good thing
Edited on Tue Sep-13-11 03:04 PM by Warpy
because they seem to be reminding people of just what the GOP has become, an insanely rigid, extremist party that is incapable of letting go of ideas that don't work and incapable of coming up with any that do.

Once again, it seems they're their own worst enemy.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:07 PM
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2. They should have one every week till election .
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:17 PM
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4. Perhaps the DNC should sponsor a few of the GOP debates.
The more they have to stand up and defend their half-baked proposals and red-meat slogans, the more the voting public is reminded how they are just the same BS that Bush/Cheney sold them to get us all in this mess in the first place.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:10 PM
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3. Romney comes off as somewhat sane
Which is an automatic disqualifier the further south into solid republican territory you go. All those republicans in blue states make him seem viable.
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gmee2 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:19 PM
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5. Although it looks good
I am very skeptical of any poll that does not provide a breakdown of the electorate. It is very easy to overload a poll with progressives , liberals or conservatives. That is why polls like this one do not disclose the party affiliation of its respondents.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:50 PM
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9. This poll does disclose. On page 3 (of 24) they show breakdown
by sex, age, race, party, ideology (from very liberal to very conservative). by 2008 vote

Not sure what you looked at. The article itself rather than Public Policy Polling pdf link in the article?
PPP uses automated polling but always has cross tabs
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gmee2 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 05:23 PM
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10. Yes, but it does not
disclose the percentages based on todays electorate. Things have drastically changed and whether people on DU want to admit it or not the country has moved right. Sorry I missed that on page 3 and 4 but again the electorate has changed, 41% of the country are not registered dems anymore. Also the moderates and conservatives are under represented by 6%.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:25 PM
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6. Sorry, I don't plan on being in Florida in 2012
I just have to get OUT of this horrible state before I go insane. I am sure there are many sane places In Florida, apart from Red, corrup Naples, that are fine. I just cannot take it any more. I want to go back home to BLUE New York near my children (one gay) and the 4 Seasons.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:25 PM
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7. BUT - regardless of who gets the Republican non, all these
people are going to vote against Obama.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:26 PM
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8. I wonder how much of a percentage we should factor in for voter supression? nt
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 06:45 PM
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11. Two Things To Remember About A Rick Perry Campaign
Two things to remember about a Rick Perry campaign. First, Slick Rick does not campaign to the mind, he campaigns to the gut. That's why so many Texans who would suffer from decisions made by Rick Perry and the Republican-controlled Texas state legislature continue to vote for the Senile Elephant Party and against their interests.

The second thing to remember is that Rick Perry has proven himself to be a very effective campaigner. He has won every electoral race he has fought since he ousted Jim Hightower as Texas Agricultural Commissioner nearly two decades ago. Rick Perry has left the flaming wreckage of nearly half-a-dozen good Texas Democratic candidates behind him on his quest for statewide office. I am VERY worried that national-level Democrats will convince themselves that a Perry candidacy represents no threat and will complacently allow themselves to remain fat, dumb, and happy.

I like to think that President Obama CAN beat Rick Perry. But it'll take hard work, a lot more work than it did beating "Gramps" McCain and the Wasilla Diva.

:dem:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 06:59 PM
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12. Perry is toast-he's not gonna be leaving Texas-it's Mittens
the ken-doll w/be the one.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 04:45 PM
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13. I Disagree. It'll Be Perry
I disagree. It'll be Perry.

The problem with prognosticating what the Republicans will do from the left is that most of us are sane, rational thinkers. Even those of us who vote with our guts stop every now and then to make sure our gut feelings are at least partially congruent with reality.

I no longer believe that the Republican Party is rational. Most of the GOP's current economic positions run contradictory to the interests of most of their voters. The GOP's environmental policies run contradictory to the interests of ALL their voters. Their religious positions run contradictory to those of most of their voters, namely the mainline Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox Christians in their ranks--since the Dominionists don't like anyone who isn't a "born again" evangelical and then only a select few of those.

Mitt Romney has a problem. He is a Mormon. To most DU'ers, anti-Mormon prejudice is one of those quaint things out of the Museum of 19th-century American Horrors, but anti-Mormon prejudice is very much alive within the ranks of the Religious Right and particularly within the ranks of Sunbelt state Republican parties. That prejudice WILL show up in state primaries in SC, VA, KY, TN, and elsewhere in the former Confederate states and states bordering it, like Indiana, Kansas, and Missouri. Anti-Mormon prejudice showed up in Mitt-sie's 2008 primary race and it'll show up again in 2012.

Just watch.
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