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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:42 PM
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From the Daily Kos on Where the Blame Truly Lies
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 01:16 PM by ShockediSay
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/30/1000924/-Debt-ceiling-follies:-how-we-got-here

Debt ceiling follies: how we got here

Just a reminder on why we're even in this mess tonight: it's self-inflicted. Entirely. It's entirely political, entirely partisan, entirely hard-right ideological, and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with the "debt ceiling," or even the deficit, except as proxy for the one and only thing that does matter to Republicans: cutting social programs. Fixing the tax structure? Forget it. Deficits? Hell, Republicans have voted for deficits for a fine long time now. Didn't bother them. They even said it "didn't matter"—remember that one?
So why are we talking about "catastrophe" all of a sudden? Because they want to talk about it, and because they have found in the debt ceiling a fine hostage that the crazier among them aren't afraid to shoot.

We're at this point because of the Bush tax cuts. That's the one biggest contributor to the deficit, and it was the sole reason for the last of these hostage-taking sessions by Republicans. They demanded that we not let them expire. Didn't give a crap about the deficit then.
We're at this point because Republicans insist that the rich pay not one penny more in taxes, despite enjoying the lowest effective tax rates in modern U.S. history. Instead, Republicans demand cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Straight-up class warfare, though they will send for the fainting couch if you point that out.

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This journalist should head up our 'jeering section" - - somebody to call out our counterprop to their Right Wing Propaganda Machine - - so that all our dumb democrats who can't 'get' what our simple truthful message is, much less constantly counter their Right Wing Propaganda with our simple, truthful message. This message needs to flood not only MSM, but Twitter and Facebook as well. We are losing our democracy to a Right Wing Propaganda Machine. Act like it!
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:45 PM
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1. Yeah, it's Class Warfare
The Rich against the rest of us. Depression, here we come.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:46 PM
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2. At this point, we KNOW who's to blame, but proving it to anyone
only gets us mired in debate/he said/she said. The facts and figures don't penetrate the mass consciousness, unfortunately, so we need to begin where we are now and restructure our argument if we hope to achieve any meaningful progress in the future.

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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:09 PM
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3. by constantly hammering away in the media with the truth of our simple message n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:15 PM
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4. We don't keep it simple -- we're all over the place. They've mastered
the art of the sound bite and we need to do the same. Use them every damn time a microphone is put in front of their faces, regardless of the question.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 01:32 PM
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5. Even last century, the Fascists figured that out. They kept their message simple,
they twisted facts to their own purposes, they spread outright lies and they took over the MSM.
Don't forget history.

Right Wing
Super Wealthy Funded
Corporation
Controlled
Media
Organized Repitious Propaganda Pumping
w/ Scapegoating

=Fascist Regime
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 02:14 PM
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6. Yeah, who was it who said even if it's a lie, if you repeat it enough
times people will end up believing it?

Worked then, works now.
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