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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:41 AM
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Why is the Journal Mystified that Some Employers Are Having Trouble Finding Workers?
The Wall Street Journal seems truly mystified that with headline unemployment at 9.5% and U6 at 16.5%, some employers are nevetheless having trouble filling jobs. But this shouldn’t seem all that strange when you consider that workers are not an undifferentiated mass, but have particular skills and experience, and live in particular places, and they may not always match up tidily with where employers are and what they are looking for.

The subtext of the piece, however, is that a major culprit is that workers are being too fussy and are not willing to accept what is on offer:

Employers and economists point to several explanations. Extending jobless benefits to 99 weeks gives the unemployed less incentive to search out new work. Millions of homeowners are unable to move for a job because the real-estate collapse leaves them owing more on their homes than they are worth.

The job market itself also has changed. During the crisis, companies slashed millions of middle-skill, middle-wage jobs. That has created a glut of people who can’t qualify for highly skilled jobs but have a hard time adjusting to low-pay, unskilled work like the food servers that Pilot Flying J seeks for its truck stops…..

If the job market were working normally—that is, if openings were getting filled as they usually do—the U.S. should have about five million more gainfully employed people than it does, estimates David Altig, research director at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. That would correspond to an unemployment rate of 6.8%, instead of 9.5%.

Yves here. Go back and look at the list of why some jobs go begging. The Journal lists three reasons, but there are really only two: employees are not willing to take whatever is on offer (either due to still having unemployment benefits or believing they can find higher-paid work) or due to inability to move where jobs are. Note these problems all have to do with workers, there is no consideration as to whether employers are contributing to this dynamic. For instance, note how the story suggests that workers will need to trade down. Yet many employers turn down job-seekers because they are overqualified.

Yet one can think of reasons why, and the article itself provides some supporting evidence. A core issue is that the employer-employee relationship has broken down. Quaint as it may sound, there once was a tacit commitment: a worker who competent and dedicated could expect to spend a considerable amount of his career at with one firm (in the 1980s, job tenures of less than five years needed to be justified). But as cost cutting and short term earnings fixation became more pervasive, average time of employment shortened greatly. And with that came a major shift in behavior: it made less and less sense for employers to hire talented people with good general competence and character and train them. They’d be unlikely to recoup the cost of the investment. Instead, companies started more and more to seek staff, in that horrid corporate cliche, who could hit the ground running. For instance, headhunters would increasingly be tasked to find someone who was doing exactly the same job at a competitor firm. This tendency goes all the way down the food chain; for instance, I’m told it’s impossible to become a bartender in NYC unless you have at least two years of bartending experience.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/08/why-is-the-journal-mystified-that-some-employers-are-having-trouble-finding-workers.html
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 07:48 AM
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1. Thanks for the good read. It's all part of the right wing strategy....
...to blame workers and exonerate corporations for everything that's wrong in society.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:01 AM
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2. Maybe technology makes skilled work obsolete or able to be handled by fewer people
And in the end all that is needed is raw unskilled labor.

If Americans who lost their manufacturing jobs won't do manual labor they may be keeping themselves permanently jobless.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:20 AM
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3. "Maybe technology makes skilled work obsolete"
No is just requried a new set of skills.

Even if you had a magic tech machine that took all the skill out of the work.... someone would need to maintain the machine, servicing, repair it, transport it, sell it, install it, upgrade it, etc.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:20 AM
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7. You only need a tech manufacturing machine if you are manufacturing electronics.
If you are manufacturing vegetables or chickens you don't need to work a machine.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:40 AM
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5. and maybe a skilled trade is worth more than the $8/hr they want to pay.
My tech skills are still in demand but nobody wants to pay more than $8.50/hr for $15+/hr skills.
Throw in my age and health and I can forget about being hired.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:13 AM
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10. 9.5% unemployment is not the kind of environment that let's you dictate a better wage.
Employers are getting huge opportunities at trained workers at very low expense. The wage increases have to wait for better times and a less competitive labor market. This makes things like illegal immigration which expand the labor pool in a completely uncontrolled manner a very big deal. Wage pressures from the bottom due to close to full employment are the best way to increase wages.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:03 PM
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13. Keep telling yourself that.
As I told my CO in 1972. "Yeah, I could shut up and do what I'm told. There's only one little problem with that."

"What's the problem?"

"I don't like the taste of shit"
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:21 AM
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4. I am reminded of a city in Ohio a few years back that was running low on labor.
The local businesses invested in the local schools to train for their local businesses.

Probably now its all gone to crap. But it was a nice idea at the time.

Or maybe a stunning success. You never know with Ohio.

Round on both ends hi in the middle O hi O.
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skippy911sc Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:48 AM
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6. I find it hard to understand
when it seems so clear to me. People are looking for work, they are just refusing to get paid 25% less that they used to. Who's fault is this? Look at some listing in the paper or online and you will find help wanted for someone with a masters degree and 10 years of specific experience, starting pay $35,000. WTF??? $35k for all that SPECIFIC experience and a master to boot. This is why people are refusing to take some jobs or even apply for them. I spent the last year applying for at least 20 different jobs, had a few phone interviews but nothing. I finally found something in education and start this week. Stories that blame the unemployed for their laziness or whatever make me sick!
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:35 AM
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8. A lot of reccomended reading
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 09:36 AM by 90-percent
For those that don't want to slog through the entire July 18 DU link at the bottom below, here's the direct link to the NY Times article I was referring to there, along with my commentary about the article:

"I posted a NY Times link about retraining in manufacturing that was sent by my wife's cousin. (I'm in CNC and out of work) What amazed me is not so much the article, which had a Chamber of Commerce aroma, but the posted LETTERS in response to the article. Most of the responses indicated we the people know we're being hosed by greedy corporations that want the skills, but don't want to grow the workers or pay the taxes to get them. Our current crop of corporate management seem to think THEY are the only ones that should be making ANY MONEY!

Here's the link http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/business/economy/02manufacturing.html?_r=3&hp and it's almost as if 80% of the respondents are fellow DU readers! This leads me to believe Americans may be better informed than we all realize!"

-90% jimmy

full post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8767297&mesg_id=8770278
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:09 AM
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9. kick to read later. eom
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:23 AM
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11. That shift away from "good general competence and character" has hit my kids hard
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 10:24 AM by starroute
Both of them headed off to college in the late Clinton years, where the line was that someone with a solid educational background and a good work ethic could always find employment. But that's doing them no good at all in the Bush economy, where the demand is for employees who have been stamped out to demand on an assembly line.

I tell them that in ten years, their peers with the highly specialized IT degrees who got snapped up right out of college will have been discarded in favor of this year's cheaper and more up-to-date model -- but that doesn't help them much now.

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FloriTexan Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:18 AM
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12. I see...
That explains why my husband has only been able to land one interview in over a year of unemployment. He is a plumbing designer who would be willing to do drafting only and take a lower wage, but they won't even call him for an interview. I'm sure its all his fault.


:sarcasm:
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