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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:59 AM
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Tea Party Fear in Europe
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 05:41 AM by Lars77
Tim Phillips, lobbyist and chairman of Americans for Prosperity (AFP) is in Europe and Oslo to endorse and teach the Norwegian right wing party (Fremskrittspartiet) how to organize so-called grassroots campaigns. But the grass root campaigns such as those the Tea Party Movement and AFP holds aren't bottom-up crowds, but pure lobbying campaigns financed by billionaires with a clear political agenda.


Doh i forgot the link!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-johansen/tea-party-fear-in-europe_b_550551.html



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Ofcourse right-wing in Norway is pretty different from right-wing in the US. On the US political spectrum they would be to the left of the Dems, over here in our little Stalinist utopia ;), they are right wingers. And worse, they're populists who uses the muslim minority in the country to create fear.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:08 AM
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1. Eeek! So sorry
we are exporting this crazy shit.

I hope your righties laugh them right out of Europe.
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:19 AM
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2. It could never work in Norway but other places definately
In Norway the social democratic values are deeply embedded in our culture, so it would not take the shape of anti-government populism anyway. This right-wing party he mentions have been polled at around 30% at times but usually drop around elections becuase it is more of a protest party against "politics as usual". They have specialized in populist retoric and opposing the sitting government. They have never been in power and are badly disliked by a large portion of the population. And even more important, they do not have a news network to help them organize anything like this. However their leader is batshit crazy. Her favourite book is of course Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, and her brother works as a lobbyist for the oil industry.


The UK however could be a different story. There are a lot of conservatives with money there, Ruper Murdoch owns half the UK media and is slandering the conservatives opponents on a daily basis.
I'm also thinking about Hungary where the right-wing Jobbik party, which are essentially an anti-semitic facist party got 17% of the vote.
Maybe the most dangerous of all is Italy, where the media is almost solely controlled by Silvio Berlusconi who has no problem pandering to facists to stay in power. Illegal immigration has become such a problem that in many Italian cities now they have civilian uniformed (brown-shirts!) posses walking around cities harrassing people who look foreign.

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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:29 AM
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3. immigration seems to activate the right wing
Sorry to hear about that. I am in the US, but have been expecting politics to get worse in western Europe due to all the immigration from Africa & the middle east.



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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:50 AM
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4. TeaBaggers are the corporately manipulated Sockpuppet Wing of the Republicon Homelanders
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 05:52 AM by SpiralHawk
And if truth be known, TeaBaggers drink not tea, but rather kool aid.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:59 AM
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5. Europe's improved media
And lack of Glenn Beck's will be an operational disadvantage for Koch Industries to organize Europe.. Plus EU media gives alternative viewpoints a better chance to rebut.. Of course Tea Partyism thrives on Racism.. In countries such as the Netherlands, there is plenty of that upon which weeds can grow...
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:30 AM
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6. Lars77
Lars77

I am pretty sure on one thing.. If FRP want to play that type of game, they would fail, mostly becouse most norwigian are well educated, and as your self say, most norwigian is FAR to the left comparing to the american...

And If I am not wrogn, in Norway it is illegal to have a political faction who are in "Uniform".. so it could be more than difficult for FRP to get this true at all....

IF FRP was to try to use this type of political clout to play hardball, they might discover that most norwigian are not to happy about this "tea-party" movement at all.. Most norwigian is looking at the tea movement as silly persons who time and time again show their ignorance for most things... And we dosen't have a history where the people is trowing tea out in the habour either... So the equliant with a tea party movement would be difficult to do here...

Diclotian
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