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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:29 AM
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Which Way to the Bastille?
Which Way to the Bastille?
By David Glenn Cox

Who do we throw our shoes at now? Does Wal-Mart have everyday low low prices on torches and pitchforks? Made in China of course, but the question is a serious one, what are we going to do, in this country, about a government that refuses to acknowledge our distress?

Yesterday I read that there are almost 20,000 homeless teenagers in New York City alone, so how many is that nationwide? Colorado Springs is turning off streetlights and sold their police helicopter and fired the pilot and mechanic. The default rate on jumbo mortgages is near 10%. Jumbo mortgages are at least $250,000 and ranged up to $729,750 but the stimulus bill reduced it to a paltry $625,500. Big fish with big loans and they’re going belly up just like the rest of us.

These economic hard times are not isolated; they are widespread and growing daily. Financial experts have said, “Thank God for the census hiring thousands.” Except census takers count households and we have millions that have no house to hold. Asking them if they have a high speed Internet connection or how many toilets they have misses the mark at this point. At this point the questions should be: are you getting enough to eat? Are your children attending school; do you have money to wash your clothes?

They don’t ask us and won’t ask us because they won’t like the answers, so it’s best to just ignore us. The President, in his State of the Union Address, announced a new jobs bill. Oh goody! More god-damned tax cuts that made the last stimulus so successful. Let me ask you, if I offered a 50% tax cut on the purchase of a new Ferrari or Rolls Royce, would you buy one? You won’t buy what you can’t afford no matter how big the tax break. Employers won’t hire workers to drive a truck if they don’t have orders to deliver, even with a tax cut.

Politicians love playing games with numbers. Obama can say, “My jobs program has 10 gazillion dollars in job incentives,” but they are all tax credits that might help 1% who were probably going to hire anyway. So what have we gained? We gain nothing except that the politician can smile and wave from the lectern. He’s free and indemnified when his critics ask, “What are you doing about unemployment?” He can answer with pointed finger, “Why, my administration is spending gazillions to fight unemployment. Haven’t you seen my jobs program?” But, but, but, if employers can’t take advantage of the tax cuts then you’ve spent nothing, and even worse you’ve done nothing.

The new jobs bill is the vehicle the administration plans to use to reauthorize the Patriot Act. With a heart of stone and eyes of lead, they are throwing lifejackets lined with fishhooks to the desperate. It is beyond cynical; it’s shameful and disgraceful. I have a finger between my index and ring finger that says all that needs to be said about that. Except perhaps that this bill is just more politics when our people are suffering, and politics should be put aside.

Don’t you dare say, “I would but… the Republicans.” Maybe if you’d punch a few of those Republicans in their political nose and start playing hardball instead of trying to hold encounter group sessions to try and get in touch with their feelings you might begin to gain traction. But you don’t fool me, pal. You’re the guy that’s leaning and grunting, but you ain’t pushing the car. You’re only pretending to push the car.

Untangling the unemployment numbers is like untangling canned spaghetti. It's a mish-mash in tomato sauce with attempt to defraud. First-time claims down by 43,000. There is a saturation point, isn’t there? A sponge will only hold so much water; you can’t expect it will suddenly hold 10% or 20% more. So you have an economy that is enfeebled like a geriatric pie crust. There are no new great mass layoffs because there is no one left with huge numbers of employees to lay off.

“Labor Department figures showed today in Washington... The total number of people getting unemployment insurance and those receiving extended benefits decreased.” Because they are no longer unemployed? Or because they have exhausted their available benefits? They don’t say because they don’t care; that information doesn’t fit their agenda.

“The Obama administration today projected payrolls will grow by 95,000 a month on average this year, indicating it will take a long time to recover the 8.4 million jobs lost since the recession began.”

Well, considering there are 150,000 more employees each month entering the workforce, I’d speculate that date to be somewhere around the twelfth of never. Yet these high-paid, over-educated economists always seem to forget us or to bury us in the footnotes. It makes for great headlines and the President can claim that his little-or-nothing jobs program is working.

You reach a point where you’ve just heard enough and you just don’t want to hear one more word from one more politician. I’m angry enough, thank you, I no longer need your services.

“Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) – President Barack Obama said he and his administration have pursued a 'fundamentally business-friendly' agenda and are 'fierce advocates' for the free market, rejecting corporate criticism of his policies.”

“Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- A majority of companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock index increased cash to a combined $1.18 trillion while simultaneously reducing spending, keeping a jobs recovery on hold.”

“Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. foreclosure filings rose 15 percent in January from a year earlier and exceeded 300,000 for the 11th consecutive month as modification programs failed to keep delinquent borrowers in their homes.”

“Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said he is 'agnostic' about raising taxes on households making less than $250,000 as part of a broad effort to rein in the budget deficit.

Obama, in a Feb. 9 Oval Office interview, said that a presidential commission on the Budget needs to consider all options for reducing the deficit, including tax increases and cuts in spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.”

You S.O.B! Two phony wars, a trillion dollar defense budget, and your answer is to cut Social Security and Medicare? But you’re “agnostic” on raising taxes on individuals earning just a smidge less than a quarter million a year.

We are living in a toxic economy with millions who have spent their retirement incomes that will have no chance to recover. Tens of millions who have lost their jobs and ruined their credit, who will never be able to buy another home or new car because of it. Millions of children growing up in cold rooms on bad diets with no health care. A lost generation of children moving from apartment to apartment until they get old enough to just run off and begin their own cycle of poverty and rage.

Why shouldn’t they smoke dope and sell crack? Is the magic college fairy going to come down from heaven and wave her magic wand to save them?

“Oh, what'll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what'll you do now, my darling young one?
I'm a-goin' back out 'fore the rain starts a-fallin',
I'll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest,
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty,
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters,
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison,
Where the executioner's face is always well hidden,
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten,
Where black is the color, where none is the number,
And I'll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it,
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it,
Then I'll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin',
But I'll know my song well before I start singin',
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall. (Bob Dylan)


Which way to the Bastille?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:33 AM
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1. The dawning of a new age in America as a third world nation
This is the bu$h legacy. The bu$h regime so damaged this nation there is no stopping its destruction.

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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:37 AM
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12. Bullshit
Giving up is no plan.

Bush fucked things up, to be sure...however, to say that the union is beyond repair is rater myopic.

Germany was once a Nazi State, Japan once invaded other countries at the behest of the Emperor...we will rise from the Bush ashes.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:22 PM
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18. Yes we will rise again,
But we have to hit a rock bottom where there is nothing left before that really happens.

If the cycle changes and it does not hit bottom, there will never be the kind of change required to sustain the life America once enjoyed.

Greed has to meet desperation before anything will truly change.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 07:40 PM
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44. Liberal N proud, I hope like hell we do not "have to hit rock bottom where there is nothing left"
because that will be a scene from Dante's Inferno. Trying to imagine the horror of this nation even having a Second Great Depression gives me chills.

The kind of change required for America to sustain the life it once enjoyed will hopefully never happen. We have been the most myopic, materialistic, thoughtless, driven-by-advertising-and -consumerism culture in the history of the planet, and I for one hope that we change for the better and learn to live well without having to use one-quarter of the planet's resources to do it.

I'm hoping that Greed will meet Desperation and things will change for the better long before we hit bottom.

I've read Buckminster Fuller and I used to agree with him that we could bring the entire world up to the standard of living that Americans enjoyed twenty years ago. Now, seeing the sheer BILLIONS of humans and the already burgeoning consumerist societies that are forming in formerly developing countries like China and India, I think even Mr. Fuller would temper his views and admit that we should learn to live full and healthful lives without requiring the trappings of consumer society that our nation now "enjoys".



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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:41 PM
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20. Who Provided the Food, Medicine, Capital and Technology for post-war Germany and Japan?
And who will provide it to the US?

This is a global collapse--and South America, which might be most likely to survive, because they have the will to fight for themselves, isn't exactly forgiving all the shit showered upon them by an arrogant imperial US.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:42 PM
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27. Don't point out that Germany and Japan flowered into the healthy democracies that
they are today until you point out that it had to come to this first:

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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:36 AM
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37. Becoming a Third World Country
Becoming a Third World Country
FEBRUARY 12, 2010
in ANALYSIS
By John Michael Greer

(The Intelligence Daily) — In the course of writing last week’s Archdruid Report post, I belatedly realized that there’s a very simple way to talk about the scope of the brutal economic contraction now sweeping through American society – a way, furthermore, that might just be able to sidestep both the obsessive belief in progress and the equally obsessive fascination with apocalyptic fantasy that, between them, make up much of what passes for thinking about the future these days. It’s to point out that, over the next decade or so, the United States is going to finish the process of becoming a Third World country.

I say “finish the process,” because we are already most of the way there. What distinguishes the Third World from the privileged industrial minority of the world’s nations? Third World nations import most of their manufactured goods from abroad, while exporting mostly raw materials; that’s been true of the United States for decades now. Third World economies have inadequate domestic capital, and are dependent on loans from abroad; that’s been true of the United States for just about as long. Third World societies are economically burdened by severe problems with public health; the United States ranks dead last for life expectancy among industrial nations, and its rates of infant mortality are on a par with those in Indonesia, so that’s covered. Third World nation are very often governed by kleptocracies – well, let’s not even go there, shall we?

There are, in fact, precisely two things left that differentiate the United States from any other large, overpopulated, impoverished Third World nation. The first is that the average standard of living here, measured either in money or in terms of energy and resource consumption, stands well above Third World levels – in fact, it’s well above the levels of most industrial nations. The second is that the United States has the world’s most expensive and technologically complex military. Those two factors are closely related, and understanding their relationship is crucial in making sense of the end of the “American century” and the decline of the United States to Third World status.


Rest of the story, if you dare, is at:

http://www.inteldaily.com/2010/02/becoming-a-third-world-country/
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 02:16 AM
Response to Reply #37
50. Excellent article!
This really should be a thread of its own.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:33 PM
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51. Yup,
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. Thanks, tama!
Very thought-provoking.

May I add you to my buddy list?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:23 PM
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55. I'd be honoured - Aho Mitakuye Oyasin :) n/t
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:33 PM
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56. Hmmmm,
I'm afraid I'm getting ready to reveal myself as a complete idiot, but I think that phrase is in Japanese? Does "aho mitakuye oyasin" mean "I'd be honored"? In that case, I will be very happy to return the honor!

Let me hear from you... Sending much love across oceans and continents :pals:
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:31 PM
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57. Not Japanese but Lakota ("Sioux")
and it's the most beautifull prayer I know, meaning "All Our Relations":
http://www.wolfwalkercollection.com/AHO_MITAKUYE_OYASIN.html

I learned it last summer when attending a sweat seremony in nearby ecovillage, guided by a very skillfull Mexican temascalero. During the sweat many languages were spoken and sung, Lakota, Nahuatl, Finnish, Sanskrit, Spanish and English, but it felt like all languages were speaking and singing the same language. The theme of the last round was Heart, after several round of swetting each heart was beating so loud in the ears that it was difficult to hear one's own thoughts, the beat was both one's own heart and heart of Mother Earth whose womb the temascal is, womb of rebirth. :)

Aho
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:40 PM
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58. Gaah. Gaaaah!!!!!
I just knew that I was gonna make a complete ass of myself.

:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

Going into hiding now, and promise to shut up.

All embarrassment aside, this is very interesting, I have not had the opportunity to learn much about it. Thank you for sharing, tama!
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:25 PM
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59. Thanks ;)
At Moe's:
"Homer: There's only one thing worse than being a loser. It's being one
of those guys who sits in a bar telling a story of how he became
a loser, and I never want that to happen to me.
Barney: Please, Homer?
Moe: Yeah, come on, Homer.
Homer: Well, okay...

(The Dancer Story)

...And that's the story. Homer is amazed that everyone was hanging on his every word. The bar denizens beg Homer to tell it again, and he agrees. ``I wonder why stories of degradation and humiliation make you more popular.'' Moe responds, ``I dunno. They just do.''
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:12 PM
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16. Destruction
"...there is no stopping its destruction."

It didn't sound to me like you are giving up, just acknowledging that better awaits on the other side of worse.

As in the cases of Japan and Germany noted in the other post, and little destruction can yield democratic results.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
25. As soon as the social safety
net is gone, the U.S.A. is officially a third world nation.

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #25
33. Sounds like a defining line...
and quite probably true.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 09:09 PM
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35. Extend and pretend

and they will, until they can't. Then the global financial Ponzi implodes and we all become like Bernie Madoff's victims.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:43 AM
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2. Ok, so you need directions?
Here you go.

People from all over the country are organizing to converge on Washington, D.C., to demand the immediate and unconditional withdrawal of all U.S. and NATO forces from Afghanistan and Iraq.

On Saturday, March 20, 2010, there will be a massive National March & Rally in D.C. A day of action and outreach in Washington, D.C., will take place on Friday, March 19, preceding the Saturday march.
The unions are organizing for a march on DC in April.

http://answer.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_homepage

Also Ed Shultz has been talking about a march on DC on his radio show.

Keep listening, things are beginning to stir.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:19 AM
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8. People are ticked off
And are going to take to the streets, but will they listen to us? Do the powers that be ever listen to the people? I really don't know what it will take to bring about change. My husband and I are baby boomers living in the Midwest and are seriously considering throwing some placards in the car and heading to DC to join in the march. I just want to believe that our voices will not fall on deaf ears. I'm dubious, and more than a bit jaded.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 03:45 PM
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28. The only thing that will make anyone in authority pay attention is if the march
spills out of its containment zones—say, onto Capitol grounds—and some things happen to get set afire in the process. I can't say I'd be sorry to see that happen.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:19 AM
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9. Yes yes yes!
I posted about this yesterday (Ed trying to get a march together) with no reply. Strange, I thought. We have to do it. We've been way too lazy (myself included), thinking that with the election of Obama we had somehow "arrived." As HE (Obama) told us: our work has just begun.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:20 PM
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17. My wife and I were hoping to be able to attend on March 20th
But it isn't going to be possible for financial reasons. Like many in this economy, we are assisting an underemployed relative.

However, we will find a way to donate and support the effort.

I assume there will also be some assistance needed for legal defense of marchers. I seriously doubt TPTB are going to allow this march to go unchallenged.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:13 PM
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24. That worked so well the first time
As the OP points out, they don't care what we say or do.

This will start to change when some right-wing blood is shed.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:12 PM
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29. It has nothing to do with right wing or left wing. This isn't an ideological
thing, it's a class thing. Top 5% blood is what you want to be shedding. Granted, most of it will be right-wing, but that's incidental.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:51 PM
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48. Exactly - and there is plenty of culpablity from Democrats...
until we stop being manipulated by both parties and kick some dead-beat elitist asses around, nothing will change. There is a time and place for populism and it is now.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:00 AM
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41. Oh good, a march with warmer weather. Maybe there could be 2 or 3 regional ones as well. I suggest
clogging things up in New York around the News offices so the impact will not be ignored. Nothing gets reported like offending a reporter. If Fox News can't get into their offices, they might be prompted to cover it.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 07:47 PM
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45. Thanks for that info, fasttense. nt
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:44 AM
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3. Very harsh....
and sadly, very true.

Keep up the good posts, I enjoy your point of view.

t.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:54 AM
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4. It's not Social Security that is the problem...
It's that they don't want to pay back all the money they borrowed from us to finance their fucking wars...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:44 PM
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26. They don't want to pay back
the money they borrowed for the Reagan tax cuts, the Dubya tax cuts and two unnecessary fucking wars.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. Bingo...
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:56 AM
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5. Take 95 north from Richmond.
The party is a two headed snake.

The right wing looks at the left head and screams: Socialists!

The left wing looks at the right head and yells: Fascist!

The snake looks back and whispers: Lunch.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:38 PM
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19. Wow. And ..........yes.
Great metaphor!

Thank you.

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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:14 PM
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22. Thank you. n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #5
34. That's good

I had not heard it put so well.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:35 AM
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36. Thanks.
From the old wise tale:

A gardner finds a wounded snake and takes pity on the creature. It takes some time to recover while the gardner cares for the snake. During this time the gardner and snake form a bond.

One day, having recovered, the snake bites the gardner. In shock, the gardner ask why?

I'm a snake, what did you expect?
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 10:59 AM
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6. great post...nt
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:22 AM
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11. +1 n/t
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:15 AM
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7. hah! this is just another doom and gloomer obama-basher who's just jealous coz he can't beat
the president at 3-D chess.

or he just didn't get his pony.

or something.

:P
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Daveparts still Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:22 AM
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10. Are you?
Delusional? Do live in a fantasy world sucking on TV’s sugar titties?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:38 AM
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13. since i haven't owned a TV in over ten years, i guess not.
:eyes:
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proudohioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:09 PM
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21. Maybe his "pony" is a roof over his head
and food on the table to feed his family.

A lot of us are having that "pony" taken away from us right now.

It sounds like it goes a little beyond the mentality of "but, but, I was promised a flying car!! Where's my flying car?"

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 02:33 PM
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43. *sigh* Please help me out, here...
First: Perhaps you meant sarcasm in your post. Thus the little smiley guy below your text? If not, then let's move on...

Instead of throwing out the "obama-basher" epithet, could you please address the specific points in the OP that are incorrect or that don't make sense? You don't have to do all of them. That would take awhile, and we're all busy these days. I understand.

I'll start...Tax credits. All of the windows in my home have that old-fashioned THIN glass that was used in the 60's. You know. When energy was cheap and no one cared if most of your heat went out through the walls. Speaking of which, there is NO insulation in my walls, either.

I keep my thermostat turned low, because otherwise, the furnace would run constantly. Then I wouldn't be able to pay my heating bill. I live in sweat pants and sweatshirts during the winter. I'm not complaining overly much. At least I have a house, for which I'm very grateful.

I see commercials for energy efficient windows every day. All these companies note that you can get "tax credits" for installing the windows. Problem is, my income is very low. My tax obligation, therefore, is minimal.

So tax credits are not going to help me in that area. The only thing I can hope for is to save enough money to have (I'm thinking) a few windows put in at a time.

This is just one example of why I think the OP has nailed it in terms of what Obama is NOT doing. I want to see action that really works.

My favorite descriptive term for Obama is "Dr. Pangloss". All words.










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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:51 AM
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14. Excellent post, and it will have to come to that at least figuratively n/t
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 12:00 PM
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15. We've crossed the Rubicon
I believe that we've already crossed the Rubicon on a path to a citizens' revolt that will come suddenly and destroy a system designed to let the few live parasitically off of the many. Our elected representatives and the corporate masters they serve are a parasitic disease that has infected every part of our political and economic systems, and revolt is the cure.

The blatant hypocrisy; the public abuse of power; the right now claimed by the aristocracy to exterminate citizens without due process; the moralizing by the immoral; the conspicuous corruption and subservience of elected representatives to Wall Street... It all tells me that those who control the wealth and the guns are either oblivious to what's coming, or they believe they can suppress and survive it.

The OP was a Good Balance of emotion and facts. Those facts roll past us every day in a steady stream of news stories. The emotions you express should come automatically to any sentient person.

Thanks
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 01:59 PM
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23. Well stated.
"HOPE" plus $2.50 will buy you a cup of coffee.

"When given the choice between a Republican, and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voters will choose the Republican every time." ---Harry Truman

QED Massachusetts











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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:47 PM
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31. K&R
Hear! Hear!
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 05:49 PM
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32. Ooh!
Somebody gave me a heart! Thank you! My other one's been a bit heavy lately.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:43 AM
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38. we have become argentina.....
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:44 AM
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39. it seems that many humans have lost the compassion & empathy gene
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:39 PM
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52. I don't believe so
or that compassion & empathy is a gene, though they are certainly the most natural state. But being dependant since birth of a system that is founded upon blind greed and encouridges greedy and selfish behaviour to suffocate natural compassion in every way it can does have it's effects too.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:46 AM
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40. Great Post! K & R
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 02:10 PM
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42. It seems like the angriest people right now are the teabaggers.
I can't cheer in hopes of a popular uprising very much when it's the teabagger assholes who would be most likely to be leading the charge.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 03:25 PM
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53. You're missing the up side.
They will take the first causalities. That is as cynical as it sounds.

To know your enemy, you must be able to judge his determination.

If his forces hold their ground and you are weaker, avoid head long combat.

Go around him and force him to fight you on your terms.

Attack where he is weakest. Relentlessly.

Deny him comfort and rest.

Destroy his resolve.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 08:16 PM
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46. Excellent diatribe. Thank you.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:30 PM
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47. K&R!!!! EXCELLENT POST !
Dylan is a prophet with that song..

"The new jobs bill is the vehicle the administration plans to use to reauthorize the Patriot Act" is exactly right.

The Patriot Act is the hammer they are using on our coffins.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 12:02 AM
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49. Place your favorite Wall Street or Health Care CEO here...?

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