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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:35 PM
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Chavez's Historic Call for a Fifth Socialist International

November 30th 2009, by Frederico Fuentes

Caracas -- Addressing delegates at the International Encounter of Left Parties held in Caracas, November 19-21, Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez stated "the time has come for us to convoke the Fifth International." Faced with the capitalist crisis and the threat of war that is putting at risk the future of humanity, "the people are clamoring for" greater unity of left and revolutionary parties willing to fight for socialism, he said.

Like his call in 2005 to build "21st Century Socialism" and his call in 2006 for the creation in Venezuela of a new, mass revolutionary party - the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) - Chavez's call to unite the left in a new International is historic.

It builds on the experience of the four previous socialist "internationals", the first created by Karl Marx in 1864, which collapsed. The Second International was formed in 1889, but fell apart when representative parties sided with their own governments in the bloodshed of World War I.

The Third International was founded in the aftermath of the Russian Revolution. However, as Chavez said, it "degenerated" under Stalinism and "betrayed" struggles for socialism around the world.

Leon Trotsky founded the Fourth International in 1938. However, Trotsky died in 1940 and his followers never succeeded in building mass support.

This call for a new international is also historic because of the political authority of Chavez himself: the leader of a revolutionary movement made up of millions struggling for a socialist society.

Following the approval by a majority of the delegates, of a special resolution in favor of founding of the "Fifth Socialist International as a space for socialist-oriented parties, movements and currents in which we can harmonize a common strategy for the struggle against imperialism, the overthrow of capitalism by socialism," Chavez reaffirmed his call, this time in his opening remarks as president of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela to the party's 1st Extraordinary Congress, which began on November 21.

In front of 772 delegates elected from the grassroots in an unprecedented process involving close to a million party militants, he requested that the proposal be included in the agenda of the Congress.

"I call on this First Extraordinary Congress of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela to include in its agenda for debate, the proposal to convene political parties and currents to create the Fifth Socialist International as a new organization that fits the time and the challenge in which we live, and that can become an instrument of unification and coordination of the struggle of peoples to save this planet."

The Congress, which will last until April 2010, the month that the founding congress of the Fifth International has been set for, will now discuss the proposal. This discussion "must go out to the people, to the social organizations and other forms of popular power in the country," according the plan proposed by Chavez.

Likewise, this decision will be discussed by left parties around the world, who will have to take a position in the face of this transcendental proposal, which undoubtedly will be taken up will full vigor by a mass revolutionary party in construction.

Unity in the face of imperialist counter-offensive

The central discussion on the first day of the Encounter of Left Parties was the issue of the new imperialist offensive in the region, exemplified by the expansion of US military bases and the coup in Honduras.

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http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4965
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:37 PM
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1. These are the kinds of things that make me start to like Chavez again...
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 04:45 PM
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2. Chavez is often full of sh_T, but
If this works, it would be a landmark, in that the people responsible for starting it would be be former members of the Middle Class, as everyone from Marx to Trotsky to even Castro was. This would be a movement unlike the ones in North America or Europe or even Asia, because it would actually be led by people who came FROM the poorer classes. Put in a more blunt way, Evo Morales, Lula and Hugo actually ARE from the proletariat, something even Marx himself could never be.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 06:47 PM
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3. Chavez is showing some extraordinary political maturity
A baby Marxist, he is not!
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:05 PM
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11. Is that you being droll?
'Cause I know you know it's "infantile Marxist."
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 07:19 PM
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4. One word in the headline is misspelled.
It's "hysteric," not "historic."
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 03:30 PM
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5. Kudos to Chavez.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:09 PM
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6. The collapse of the Second International was a tragedy: its theoreticians predicted WWI, and
there was widespread agreement by participants in the Second International that if war broke out, they would work to convince people in their various countries to refuse to participate. And yet this widespread expectation that a pointless war was immanent, and the many pledges not to support it, had essentially no practical effect when war actually broke out: many of the people who had promised to organize against the war promptly fell into patriotic fervors and simply organized no resistance

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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:41 PM
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7. The 5th International
will in all likelihood suffer the same fate as the preceding four - collapse due to its inability to achieve any workable concensus among its members.
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 06:42 AM
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8. The 'third international' was that of Stalin
Just making sure any casual reader knows that.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 07:16 AM
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9. I wouldn't want to live in Chavez's world
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:51 AM
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14. If you did, you would have universal health care
and new clinics in rural areas and for poor people.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:03 PM
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17. I would. I am looking for a country in which
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 01:04 PM by roody
I will be treated well in my soon-to-come elder years. In a nursing home, without an advocate, one is basically fucked in the USA.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:40 PM
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10.  The spreaders of fear
the 1% of the super rich that rule the planet,have their hired lying thugs ( the media ),out in force spreading fear among the misinformed.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:24 PM
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12. Not to sound like a jerk or anything
because i do support socialism and I could be wrong about this,but isn't Chavez widely considered to be a communist dictator along the lines of Castro,or Lenin? I could very well be ignorant about this and would love to be educated so please set me straight if I am wrong.
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Ysabela Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:42 AM
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13. You need to stop watching Fox News.
He's the democratically elected President in landslide victories, due in part to the indigenous peoples of Venezuela finally rising up against the right-wing, colonial powers. They ratified their new Constitution in 1999 which included many, many more basic human rights than the US constitution/Bill of Rights. That's one of the reasons why I say America needs to convene a new Constitutional Convention and ratify a new, 21st century document.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:36 AM
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15. Okay
Thanks for that. I suspected that I was probably ignorant on that subject. In that case I fully support the Fifth International.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:05 PM
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18. There is a constant stream of reliable information
at the Latin American forum. There are also a few trolls.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:16 PM
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16. Is there some reason
this is being re-posted (originally posted Nov. 30)???
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