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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:48 PM
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Instead of Fixing the U.S. Economy or Creating Jobs for AMERICANS, Obama Will Spend The Money on War

America is in the most severe unemployment crisis since - and perhaps including - the Great Depression.

And yet Obama, like Bush, has done virtually nothing to create more jobs. Instead, they both gave trillions to the biggest banks (who are not loaning it out to the little guy) and for waging wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Obama is apparently escalating - not ending - the wars. And its not cheap.

According to the White House, the cost of deploying new soldiers to Afghanistan could be $1 million per soldier. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz says that the Iraq war will cost $3-5 trillion dollars.

As I have previously pointed out, protracted war increases unemployment, shrinks the economy, and causes recession. See this, this and this.

But deficits don't matter, right? Wrong.

But We Had No Choice ... We Had to Fight Those Wars

But - you may say - we had no choice, we had to fight those wars because of 9/11.

Well, top British officials say that the U.S. discussed Iraq regime change long before 9/11. In fact, they say that regime change was advocated one month after Bush took office:

The chairman of the British Joint Intelligence Committee in 2001 told investigators Monday that elements of the Bush Administration were pushing for regime change in Iraq in early 2001, months before the 9/11 attacks and two years before President George W. Bush formally announced the Iraq war.




Sir Peter Ricketts, now-Secretary at the Foreign Office, said that US and British officials believed at the time that measures against Iraq were failing: "sanctions, an incentive to lift sanctions if Saddam allowed the United Weapons inspectors to return, and the 'no fly' zones over the north and south of the country."



Ricketts also said that US officials had raised the prospect of regime change in Iraq, asserting that the British weren't supportive of the idea at the time.


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The head of the British Foreign Office's Middle East department, Sir William Patey, told the inquiry that his office was aware of regime change talk from some parts of the Bush Administration shortly after they took office in 2001.



"In February 2001 we were aware of these drum beats from Washington and internally we discussed it," Patey said. "Our policy was to stay away from that."

The Brits previously revealed that intelligence and purported facts of Iraq's weapons programs were "fixed around" the pre-set policy of invading Iraq.

It's not just the Brits.

Former CIA director George Tenet said that the White House wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11, and inserted "crap" in its justifications for invading Iraq.

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill also says that Bush planned the Iraq war before 9/11.

Everyone knew the WMD claims were fake. For example, the number 2 Democrat in the Senate, who was on the Senate intelligence committee, admitted that the Senate intelligence committee knew before the war started that Bush's public statements about Iraqi WMDs were false. And if the committee knew, then the White House knew as well.

The CIA warned the White House that claims about Iraq's nuclear ambitions (using forged documents) were false, and yet the White House made those claims anyway.

Cheney was largely responsible for generating fake intelligence about Iraq in order to justify the war. For example, Cheney:

•Falsified documents which were meant to show that Iraq's Saddam Hussein regime had been trying to procure yellowcake uranium from Niger can be traced back to Vice President Dick Cheney

•"Cheney's office was pulling the strings" on the shop which twisted Iraq intelligence
And see this.

And you may have heard that the Energy Task Force chaired by Cheney prior to 9/11 collected maps of Iraqi oil fields and potential suitors for that oil. But you probably don't know that a secret document written by the National Security Council on February 3, 2001 directed the N.S.C. staff to cooperate fully with the Energy Task Force as it considered the “melding” of two seemingly unrelated areas of policy: “the review of operational policies towards rogue states,” such as Iraq, and “actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas fields”.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/instead-fixing-us-economy-or-creating-jobs-americans-obama-will-spend-money-afghanistan-and-

The empire budget is about 2 trillion a year when you count everything. There's PLENTY of money it's just getting spent on the wrong things!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:58 PM
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1. Unemployment -- Obama figures the economy will just eventually
improve without much effort. Meanwhile, the war cartel is stronger than any nation or president. It is like a cancer on our society. It grows without bounds. It eats us up. It is ugly and cannot be stopped. Our nation is being eaten alive by a war machine.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:00 PM
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2. Doing the same thing over and over
and expecting a different result. :silly:
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:37 PM
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3. Sorry, but I stop reading in the first few lines when stuff bears no relationship to reality
"And yet Obama, like Bush, has done virtually nothing to create more jobs. Instead, they both gave trillions to the biggest banks (who are not loaning it out to the little guy) and for waging wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Obama is apparently escalating - not ending - the wars. And its not cheap."

Refuting non-reality gets tiring, but what the hey?

The stimulus bill was the biggest job creation, Keynesian spending bill since the New Deal. How is that "nothing"?

They did not "give" trillions to the banks; they lent it and are getting it paid back. And it wasn't trillions.

I'm not sure whether facts can seep into the brains of the perpetually pissed off, but the Iraq war is ending. Everyone in the reality based community acknowledges that.

When you put that much nonsense in the first two graphs, why do you think anyone who is a member of the reality based community is going to continue reading?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:16 PM
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8. Gee, I'd Like to Visit Your Country--Got Any Fairy Dust?
Haven't been to Neverland before....
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:48 PM
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4. There is no change....it was just a slogan for the masses to chant....
He is not the first president to lie to us or to change his mind...or to just keep on with wars even when it was wrong...or to stab us in the back.
We cannot keep paying for these wars..we are broke damn it!
Hopefully we can get him to open his eyes and change his mind...but I wont hold my breath.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:57 PM
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5. When it comes to helping American citizens all I hear how are we going to pay for it?
When it comes to blowing people up in foreign countries it's how much and how soon? It needs to be the other way around.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 03:58 PM
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6. Just to play satan, where are all the exsoldier jobs gonna come from?
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:50 PM
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9. The new American jobs will come from "in-sourcing" jobs from China and India. n/t
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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:50 PM
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7. Holy Shit, More of The Same
The main difference between W and Obama is one of character. Bush is just an evil fuck and Obama has a heart. Unfortunately he needs a set of balls to do what is right not what the RW wants. A moral man without fortitude will give us the same results as an evil ignorant puppet unfortunately.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:08 AM
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10. Let's discuss Obama's heart each day we have casualties in Afghanistan
IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 926-09

November 24, 2009
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DOD Identifies Army Casualty


The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

Spc. Jason A. McLeod, 22, of Crystal Lake, Ill., died Nov. 23, west of Pashmul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with mortar fire. He was assigned to the 704th Brigade Support Battalion, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13153

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 925-09
November 24, 2009
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DOD Identifies Army Casualty


The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

Staff Sgt. Matthew A. Pucino, 34, of Cockeysville, Md., died Nov. 23 in Pashay Kala, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 20th Special Forces Group of the Maryland Army National Guard in Glen Arm, Md.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13152

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 924-09
November 24, 2009
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DOD Identifies Army Casualties


The Department of Defense announced today the death of two soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died Nov. 22 in Zabul province, Afghanistan, of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked their vehicle with an improvised explosive device. They were assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Killed were:

Sgt. James M. Nolen, 25, of Alvin, Texas; and

Pfc. Marcus A. Tynes, 19, of Moreno Valley, Calif.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13151

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 923-09
November 24, 2009
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty


The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Sgt. Briand T. Williams, 25, of Sparks, Ga., died Nov. 22, in Numaniyah, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Heavy Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning, Ga.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13149
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:49 AM
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11. Time to bring back the dead counters.
Time to protest the President. Doesn't matter what letter is behind his name. Otherwise we have 3+ more years of war and war crimes.
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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:37 AM
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12. Don't Get Me Wrong
I agree with you. War is horrible, any war. I think the reason Obama made the decision is different from Bush but like I said the results are the same. A shame really and in my opinion a crime. Have we all decided not to ever march on DC again in protest? As a lifelong pacifist I will be there marching if we get organized.
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