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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:21 PM
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How Much Did They Know?
Rumsfeld knew about the torture of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. So did the US governor in Iraq, Paul Bremer. Even the British Ministry of Defence knew. Can we really believe that Bush and Blair didn’t?
By Diplomatic Editor Trevor Royle and Westminster Editor James Cusick


 
It was a desperate attempt to shield his boss from the devastating fallout from the abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison. “Let me be clear,” defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Friday. “I failed to recognise how important it was to elevate a matter of such gravity to the highest levels, including the President and the members of Congress.“I wish we had known more sooner and been able to tell you more sooner, but we didn’t.”

But the question of who knew what – and when – is far more complicated and potentially far more damaging than Rumsfeld’s version of events suggests.

Even before the war against Iraq, the US had been told by Amnesty International of the abuse of prisoners in Afghanistan. Reports have been delivered from the Red Cross to coalition leaders almost every month since the official end of hostilities detailing similar abuses. Another Amnesty report making those same points was handed to Paul Bremer, the US ambassador heading the coalition provisional authority in Iraq, back in June 2003.

http://www.sundayherald.com/41905
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 01:27 PM
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1. the house of cards is crumbling....
Pig bastards.
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:02 PM
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2. This is when I started to laugh during the testimony:
“Let me be clear,” defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee.....
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 02:10 PM
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3. LOL
It's the old "I'm the clear one, It's the senator who obfuscates" defense.

par for the course - Black is white , down is up, bad is good- it's been working all along so they're going to run with it...they'll need it for their slavery is freedom ploy they have in the works.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 04:47 PM
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4. The *cabal
has its tentacles in the prison biz, slave trading and pornography. It's a LUCRCATIVE source of revenue for the "avaricious ruling class."
Haven't heard that reference in YEARS, eh? ;-) WHY do you think they all turn out to be so FREAKY? Who has pix of BB and his Domanatrix?
Larry Flynt is a true PATRIOT! He HAS consistently called out the blatant HYPOCRISY so "colorfully."

HYPOCRITE, HYPOCRISY, HYPOCRITICAL, HYPOCRITICALLY. You WILL be tested on your spelling . Extra credit: HYPOCORISM with definition.

June, indeed. Try APRIL 2003. Check out Dyncorp in the Balkans. Better yet, check out what's happening on YOUR OWN SOIL (as this whole sordid tale is merely an extension- as PLASTIC as those I used to braid into my hair). Prisons are BIG BIDNESS. VEDDY, VEDDY BIG. *dauphin's granpappy cashed in on that shit. Made a LOAD O' DOUGH.

FEMA, anyone? Just tryin to start out with bite-sized bits here. B.C.C.I. is for the more advanced (check Octafish threads and archives). Proceed according to your capacity. It be some nassy shit.

BTW kids... I KNOW y'all got CDs stashed hither, thither and yon. I say that as the mom of 2 boys whose DEAD BODY WILL PROTECT FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS CLUSTERFUCK. This is the stupidest, ugliest FUBAR nonsense I have ever seen in my life. My Mothers Day request is that all that doo-daa you got that I... a) left alone cuz of confidence in your core values b) couldn't have tracked if I tried
c) alle mittlemomifestations, do a fireworks show. PUT THE EVIDENCE OUT THERE. Please. If you're UNAFRAID, tell 'em like you see it. Just a request from a mom on Mothers Day.
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