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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:14 PM
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"15 Signs American Society Is Coming Apart at the Seams" by David DeGraw,
Are we nearing a tipping point as rapacious elites push a heavily-armed populace too far?

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/144109/15_signs_american_society_is_coming_apart_at_the_seams/
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:29 PM
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1. Excellent article
A very good summary of the mess we are in.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:38 PM
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2. an excellent albeit stark overview of where things are at
very much worth the read.
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:54 PM
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3. NOW...we know why we have a police state?
...
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:58 PM
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4. It is a clear and concise picture of where we stand....
right at the edge of a cliff....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 04:09 PM
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14. Which edge?


The ground edge or the air edge?
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:01 PM
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5. Very good article. ALSO READ the complete report linked at the bottom of the article. k&r
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:20 PM
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6. Here is the piece that these points were lifted from:
Edited on Sun Nov-22-09 01:20 PM by geckosfeet
http://ampedstatus.com/the-critical-unraveling-of-us-society

Also a good read in its own right. Borders on a bit unhinged at times, but in my experience it accurately describes the economic climate that we are living in.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 03:25 PM
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17. The comments are all from loony right-wingers
which reinforces my theory that we the progressives are not ready for the fascist coup that is coming.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:26 PM
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7. It's all there for those who chose to see.
Can we please have an enlightenment and change the course of our own destiny? The crush of the weight of this is overwhelming...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 02:07 PM
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8. Obama is beginning to look like Hoover.
Hoover wasn't such a bad president. He just wasn't up to the crisis that he had to face. He tried some things. They weren't enough. He was constricted by the same "free market" propaganda that we hear today. But he was not unfeeling or unthinking or a criminal, who deliberately trashed the USA, like Bush & Co. He just didn't have the boldness and vision to see beyond the given wisdom of the day, the courage to fight such a battle with all the reigning money powers, nor the ability to inspire people. What we need is a leader who can say:

"Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred." --Franklin Delano Roosevelt

A bold visionary fighter. Or we need to find those qualities in ourselves, and re-create our country. Or both.

Obama has some ability to inspire but that is waning fast with this debacle of a health bill, and the problems detailed by David DeGraw in this article, which are nothing short of a catastrophe in the making. I feel for Obama, because I think the true rulers of this country did it to him deliberately--looted and crashed this economy on purpose, and handed him the broken pieces of Humpty Dumpty to take the blame. It's part of the false narrative they mean to use, to do even worse.

I think they wanted to break the potentially most progressive force on earth--the American people--the only people, really, with the sovereign power to break the corporate rulers, who are oppressing (when they are not killing) everyone else. That is the program. This economic meltdown did not have to happen. It was induced.

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"'This is unthinkable. It’s like we are living in a Third World country,' said Vicki Escarra, president of Feeding America."

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One big difference between 1932 and now is that they still had a transparent vote counting system, and a working democracy, back then. We have lost that. The rightwing billionaires who are running things can put anyone they want to into the White House. Sarah Pallin. Dick Cheney. They have the easy--EASY!--capability to do this.* So it's not just Obama's lack of vision or courage that we are dealing with. We could not elect an FDR, if we had one to elect (which we might). It will not be permitted. We are much more likely to see a second Hitler seize the office.

The stats that DeGraw lays out on joblessness, homelessness, indebtedness and hunger are just staggering. We are, indeed, in very big trouble, while Washington licks its chops over which multi-millionaires get the biggest bonuses. It is obscene. But I don't agree with DeGraw on one thing. He lays out a pretty scary scenario of starving, hopeless Americans with lots of guns. (He throws in the increased gun purchase stats.) I don't know if he's trying to shake Washington up, or what. Washington has made it perfectly clear that they are not worried about us in the least--guns or not. They have all the serious weaponry. But more than this: While some people might get crazy, I guess--and some individuals already have-- this spooky movie he lays out about armed militias rebelling shows rather a lack of faith in the American people. I don't think our people are stupid or especially violent. As in the Great Depression, I think they'll pull together--despite all that has been done to pull them apart, and to make them think that other Americans are stupid and violent. I think Americans inherently want to help and cooperate, and have good organizing skills.

Look what happened in Katrina, when the Bush Junta had trashed emergency services: lots of people immediately headed there in boats, in cars, with whatever they could bring to help. It was quite a wonderful response, though the Bushwhacks did everything they could to hamper it.

So I don't agree with his fear--that America will fall into violent chaos. I think we will rally as never before, and help each other out. And I think we're going to rebuild a better country out of the ashes of the Bush Junta.

It does, however, frost my ass--as I'm sure it does many others--to read the following, from the OP:

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"Never before has the United States had so many citizens with so little means, little to no income and heavy debt. Debt and costs of living have now shackled U.S. citizens just as they have shackled people throughout the world. The economic hit men have now hit the United States

"1) The inequality of wealth in the United States is soaring to an unprecedented level. The U.S. already had the highest inequality of wealth in the industrialized world prior to the financial crisis. Since the crisis, which has hit the middle class and poor much harder than the top 1 percent, the gap between the top 1 percent and the remaining 99 percent of the U.S. population has grown to a record high.

"2) As the stock market went over the 10,000 mark and just surged to a 13-month high, the three big banks that took taxpayer money and benefited the most from the government bailout have just set a new global economic record by issuing $30 billion in annual bonuses this year, “up 60 percent from last year.” Bloomberg reported: “Goldman Sachs, the most profitable securities firm in Wall Street history, had a record profit in the first nine months of this year and set aside $16.7 billion for compensation expenses.” Goldman Sachs is on pace for the best year in the firm’s history, and it is also benefiting by only paying 1 percent in taxes.

"3) The profits of the economic elite are “now underwritten by taxpayers with $23.7 trillion worth of national wealth."

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We need to tax these fuckers, and that's a fact. But first we need to get over feelings of disempowerment and helplessness, which are induced by the corpo-fascist narcotic of TV especially its political content, and by the things that have been done to us, like stolen elections and wars we did not want. Got to override the programming and get past the feeling that we can't do anything about it.

Remember the old Depression phrase, "Buddy, can you spare a dime?" Don't ignore people who are hurting. Go somewhere and do something for somebody--your neighbor, your community, your family, co-workers, strangers in the unemployment line. Spread fellow and sister feeling and help build up community and political consciousness. Don't let people suffer alone. Don't suffer alone yourself. Pull together. We've done it before, in this country, many times. We can and will do it again.

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*(With "TRADE SECRET" code voting machines, owned and controlled by a handful of far rightwing corporations, we do not have the ability to verify any election in this country, and we no longer have the right to do so. We need to start with getting rid of these machines and counting our own ballots again.)
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 03:18 PM
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12. KR

Great post.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:25 PM
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20. When Summers and Geithner were appointed by Obama, there were people who called him out on it.
But quite a few others here at DU kicked and screamed and told them to shut the hell up and that Obama was here for change, not keeping the status quo. Change is coming...just at a glacial pace.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 02:24 PM
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9. He talks about gun sales and militia groups, but fails to mention...
...that they're on the side of the wealthy oppressors. They're ready to fight, kill, and die to prevent the suffering middle class from getting any much needed help. It looks very, very bleak from here. I think it's over. They won the game, because we played it in a system stacked in favor of wealth. I don't know where we go from here.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 06:01 PM
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15. all the shiny trinkets the american middle class acquired were a nice distraction
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:50 AM
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22. They listen to Glenn Beck
and Ted Nugent. Nothing good can come from these heavily armed militias because they are steeped in ignorance.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 02:33 PM
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10. And Obama continues to fiddle
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 03:14 PM
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11. Meanwhile, our President and Congress find money for the elites, but the taxpayers get
lip service.

Recommended and kicked.

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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 03:52 PM
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13. I personally don't think it's game, set, and match;
we still have many resources, including the anger of people who are not teabaggers/birthers/deathers/ad nauseum.

This article does, I believe, give a good idea of what we're up against, and is a call to our elected leaders to work for us, their constituencies, and not for those who pay pittances in payola in order to reap copious profits from suffering, here and abroad. It's also telling us that we have to work harder for our own deliverance, or we'll be dictated to by the ruthless manipulators as we were in 2000 and 2004...or worse.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 01:17 PM
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16. What anger?
If there were any anger Glen Beck would have already been found rolled up in a rug, and the CEO of United health along with him. The only anger is directed at the people who are trying to help
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 04:54 PM
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18. The last paragraph:
While the richest 1 percent have never had it so good, a significant percentage of the U.S. population now has firsthand experience in this. Millions upon millions of Americans are poor, broke, struggling, starving, desperate… and armed.

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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:08 PM
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26. Who are these one percenters? Well, 100 of them are
in the Senate. If you're looking to take them down that might be a place to start. Word has it that several times a year almost all of them are in the same small location at the same time. A group of poor Americans carrying protest signs or an ad taken out in the local (Washington Post) newspaper may have quite an effect on them. :sarcasm:
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 04:56 PM
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19. StarfarerBill
StarfarerBill

I thing nr 11, about starving of american children is the most troublesome.. One country who for the last 80 year more or less have feed the world, can't feed themself.... That is a great symbol of how bad your country have been hit by this ressession.. I would say this is maybe a more powerfull symbol of how bad the situation really is, than anything else... That 1 in 4 children in fact is surviving on food stamps, is telling more of how many is really poor than anything else..And that more than 50 mill americans in some form or another is to poor to have decent food suply...

And what do the powers at large?. Nothing.. Nothing to fix this who US can do in a hearth beat if they wanted..

Diclotican
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:51 AM
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21. kick
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 09:58 AM
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23. Check out this commentary

Europe doesn't have a "South" to drag it down

Posted by: Hiroak on Nov 22, 2009 7:12 AM
Current rating: 4 <1 = poor; 5 = excellent>
Europeans are generally multi-cultural, at least bi-lingual, and they are not as overtly racist and stupid as a certain section of our country (the Southeast) where ignorance, football, and Wal-Mart rule. Consequently the south is the (appropriately) "reddest" section of the country.

I live in Tennessee and I can tell you these people are the dumbest I have encountered anywhere else in the World. Just for the record I have traveled a lot (10 times to Japan Korea and China, countless times to Mexico a few to the Carribean and 5 times to France, Sweden, Holland, and Germany) so I know from whence I speak.

I live in an area that is arguably a bastion of smart people (Oak Ridge) but being a rocket scientist (actually a bomb maker) doeesn't confer any sense upon you. Jesus is rampant and frequently the first question asked in a social setting is "where do you worship"? How fucked up is that? Anyway that's my assessment as to why we are fast losing our status in the world.

The rest of the planet saw Obama's election as a huge improvement and frankly the people I talk to are at a loss as to why Bush/Cheney and cohorts aren't in jail let alone on talk shows. I won't even go into what they think of Glenn Beck, Rush, Sean, BillO, et. al. One business friend of mine says the first thing he does when stateside is tune into one of these fools and count the lies and have a good laugh, he can't believe people actually take these turd blossom's seriously.



:spray:

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/144109/15_signs_american_society_is_coming_apart_at_the_seams/?comments=view&cID=1372074&pID=1371869#c1372074

Ain't it the truth
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 11:03 AM
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24. The "smart" comment may be true, but not the "racist" one...
The notion that Europeans aren't racist is bollocks. They have demonstrated considerable racism toward their Middle Eastern and North African immigrants over the past 20 years. If they don't seem as racist as parts of the US, it's more because European societies are much more monocultural than the US, not because of some greater enlightenment of Europeans with regards to race relations.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 12:07 PM
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25. He didn't say not racist
He said not as overtly racist as certain parts of the US. Also, Obama is not an immigrant, as those who live outside of OozeBeckistan are well aware.
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