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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 06:46 AM
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Assassination took our country away (DeNure | LaCrosse Tribune)
By Chip DeNure
La Crosse | Posted: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:20 am

"The past lies like a nightmare upon the present." - Karl Marx

... When President Dwight Eisenhower left office in 1960, he warned us of the dangers of what he termed the military-industrial complex. John Kennedy, elected as a cold warrior became something quite different as he settled into the job. Military and defense contractors were not at all happy about the change. The cathartic event precipitating this change was the Cuban missile crisis of October 1962. It was at this time that JFK stood up to our military leaders and resisted their demands that we invade Cuba.

After the missile crisis, Kennedy was increasingly at odds with our military and the Central Intelligence Agency, which he had threatened to shatter into a thousand pieces. One can only imagine the rage felt by the military and the CIA when they learned that JFK was intent on ending the Cold War in favor of a rapprochement with the Soviet Union, and that he was going to pull out all of our troops from Vietnam after he was re-elected in 1964. Author James W. Douglass makes those same points in his recent book, "JFK and the Unspeakable." By the summer of 1963, Kennedy had become more than an irritant to the military-industrial complex. He had become an enemy to be removed.

In his book, "Plausible Denial," author/lawyer Mark Lane details the story of how he convinced a Florida jury that the CIA and its agent, E. Howard Hunt, were involved in the assassination of John Kennedy. Recently a new book by Russ Baker called "Family of Secrets" posits the likelihood that George Herbert Walker Bush, otherwise known as the first President Bush, was a member of the CIA at the time of the Kennedy assassination. What's interesting here is that George Herbert Walker Bush, until recently, told people that he couldn't remember where he was the day John Kennedy died. Can you believe that? Most everyone older than 10 in 1963 can tell you where he/she was when they learned of the tragedy. And Bush couldn't? Well, author Russ Baker did a little digging and found an announcement in a Dallas newspaper that George Herbert Walker Bush was scheduled to give a speech in Dallas on Nov. 21, the day before the assassination. And for years afterwards, Bush couldn't remember where he was? Nonsense ...

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/news/opinion/article_201c0fa6-d738-11de-a9c4-001cc4c03286.html
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 08:06 AM
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1. Wasn't there a letter from Poppy...
in the FBI files sent from Dallas the day after, pointing an accusing finger at someone else?
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:27 AM
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4. You mean this one?
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 08:45 AM
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2. No doubt in my mind
It was a right wing hit job. Isn't there a picture of Poppy in Dallas the day of the assassination with a big smile on his face?
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 09:24 AM
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3. Well, there's this one...


There's also the letter GHWB sent to the FBI suggesting that Kennedy visit Dallas instead of Houston (JFK's original choice), citing possible threats to Kennedy in the Houston area. I've seen that letter here before, but my Google-fu is weak this morning, and I couldn't find a copy.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 10:19 AM
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5. The La Crosse Tribune is my local paper. Here DeNure may be an interesting commentator,
but starting an editorial with a quote by Karl Marx is not going to make friends or influence people in this community no matter how apt it may be. DeNure writes well and has things to say, but around here he is dismissed as being a fringe character.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 08:05 AM
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7. Your comments closely reflect my reasons for choosing that particular article to post. The
quote from Marx is really appropriate -- but of course nobody in mainstream America ever quotes Marx. I think DeNure indicates well, and in rather few words, why conspiracy suspicions continue to linger long after the Kennedy assassination -- and of course in mainstream America such suspicions will forever be relegated to the fringe, in part because there will never be any real chance that such suspicions could be proven beyond reasonable doubt. Still, it's interesting to see such an article in a local paper for a town the size of LaCrosse: I think it would be unimaginable in Altoona, for example
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 11:23 AM
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6. We've created an artificial jungle. A military leash.
I strongly believe that Obama is smart enough to know that he isn't free to do what he would like to do. I never believed him during his campaign, regarding Afghanistan. He had to talk strong in order to pass the exam and enter the White House.

We the people could change this. But we're lazy. And fearful. Otherwise we should ween ourselves off of the munition jobs and military. What's worse, being prepared for wars, and having to fear ourselves and be poor, or being free, and fearing that some aggressive country may invade us? I'll take the latter. Because that last fear is unfounded. Wars are not necessary. They're created. I know I'm dreaming. I feel that's why they killed JFK.

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:31 PM
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13. I agree, Gregorian, most wars are not necessary. Our entry into WWII being an exception
to that.

You got the rest exactly right.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 10:17 AM
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8. kick, and bookmarked.
thank you for sharing.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 11:36 AM
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9. Do NOT forget the racism in America at the time, and the level of hatred involved.
Civil rights had more to do with Kennedy hatred than any other issue.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:29 PM
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11. Not where I came from in North Carolina. Catholic yankee. Then, when he didn't
go nuclear on Kruschev for the Cuban Missile Crisis he became a commie. The racial hatred came later.

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:30 PM
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12. That guy DeNure looks like an artifact from 1959. But he sure nailed his subject.
Too late to rec, but here's the kick.

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-23-09 02:51 PM
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14. As a young girl I watched the leaders of the people....
being murdered one by one...and even then I knew something was terribly wrong with my country when it was all covered up and lied about. I knew it then as a child and I know it now.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:12 AM
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15. can't rec, but will kick--a most interesting article.
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