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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:20 PM
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Khalid Sheik Mohammed and You
Quite a rant not meant for DUers who were paying attention.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200911u/prosecuting-sheik-mohammed

Prosecuting the alleged 9/11 mastermind in New York is a good thing. But try telling that to Americans who stood by as terror suspects were improperly treated.

by Andrew Cohen
Khalid Sheik Mohammed and You


If you are upset about the Obama Administration’s decision to bring al-Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed to New York for a federal civilian trial, and you are looking to blame someone, go straight to your bathroom and look into the mirror. You have no one to blame but yourself.

You sat passively by for years while President George W. Bush and conservatives in Congress (both Republican and Democrat) ginned up one unconstitutional set of military commission rules after another. You didn’t pay attention to the details of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 or the Military Commissions Act of 2006 or the major Supreme Court cases that told you the due process rules in place to try the terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba were unlawful. You wanted revenge and retribution, even at the cost of justice and fairness, and, so long as the men you were (falsely) told were the “worst of the worst” were on a foreign island and away from you, you were fine with it.

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Stay in front of the mirror for a second. What are you afraid of? What about a Mohammed trial here in the States makes you so angry? Do you think he shouldn’t get the same rights as you? Okay, that’s fair. But so what? The Gitmo tribunals were stalled, dead in the water, so aren’t you willing to sacrifice your feeling of indignation for the quicker conviction and sentence Mohammed’s civilian trial almost surely will bring? Aren’t you willing to set aside your rage at his treatment for the diplomatic and political benefits America will receive from giving the guy an open trial? Don’t you think that treating Mohammed and his colleagues like common criminals is precisely the right message to send to the world about terrorism and al-Qaeda? Don’t you think it hurts their cause to be considered murderers and not jihadist soldiers?

Are you distrustful of the federal judiciary? Why, because you believe the dangerous lie about how judges are ruining the rest of the government’s war on terrorism? Have you taken the time to look at the track record that federal prosecutors have in successfully trying terror suspects in New York? Can you name a single case where the feds lost a major terror trial since September 11, 2001? Can you name one from before the terrible events that day? Is Tim McVeigh walking around Buffalo today? Is Terry Nichols walking around Kansas? Is Ramzi Youssef back in Brooklyn or Zacarias Moussaoui out on an airfield trying to fly planes in Minnesota? Have you heard from Jose Padilla or Richard Reid lately?

Are you really worried that Mohammed will go free? Why, because O.J. Simpson went free in 1995? Do you really think that a judge and jury are going to let this guy walk? The United States in United States v. Mohammed has the biggest home-court advantage in American legal history. Not only will the government have enough evidence to convict him, it’s likely that Mohammed will gleefully help convict himself. Did you pay attention to the Moussaoui trial when he proudly declared his al-Qaeda allegiance in a Virginia courtroom? Have you paid attention to Mohammed’s incriminating statements made to tribunal officers in Cuba? What about all of that makes you think he’s suddenly going to turn into a John Demjanjuk and deny, deny, deny it all?

Are you worried that Mohammed will try to turn his trial into political theatre? So what? The world already has heard what he and his al-Qaeda pals think of America. The world already has seen the photos from Abu Ghraib. The world knows about waterboarding. It’s old news. Mohammed is just a man, and soon he’ll be a defendant, and then he’ll be a ranting, shrieking crazy person in court, then he’ll be convicted and then he’ll be sentenced. Don’t be angry about it now that is going to occur. Don’t fear it. Welcome it. And at the same time embrace your own role, and your own responsibility, for ensuring that it had to happen this way, at this time, and in this place.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:24 PM
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1. I don't think it's the venue that bothers them.
It's the fact that the "terrorists" aren't tortured and either left to die in excrutiating pain or outright executed, on television if possible. The process of factfinding and passing judgment in a court of law is the thing that insults them.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:29 PM
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2. I think it's two things. One, they don't want Obama to be able to take
any credit for the eventual closing of Gitmo, and they might be truly frightened at rethug culpability in what might be admitted to in a court of law.

But the possibility is what's got the rufftuffcreampuffs on the right quaking in their booties, that American law will actually shine a light on the murderous, torturing, incompetent, insanely frightened, paranoid, corrupt, and completely out of control Bush/Cheney regime.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7021681
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 05:32 PM
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3. I agree with you totally.
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