Either NPR listeners overwhelmingly support Fox News...

[moonbatmax]

...or they don't read the blogs much.

NPR's news blog, The Two-Way, recently posted a poll asking visitors whom they support in this apparent feud between the White House and Fox News. Well, whatever the initial response after it went up October 23, it seems that over 1.5 MILLION NPR listeners are behind Fox on this one, compared to a measley two hundred thousand supporting the White House.

The HELL???

Actually, this email from a friend of mine might have something to do with it:

Please take 10 seconds to vote and turn this around


Fox News is losing in an NPR Poll, but with the power of the Internet we can turn that around in a few hours.

If you haven't heard this, the White House is accusing Fox News of not being a legitimate source of news, calling them biased, etc. They have tried to block Fox reporters from news conferences, etc., NPR has put a survey online for us to voice our opinion.

Currently it is 73% in favor of the White House, because mainly liberals log on to the NPR website.

If Fox loses this poll you can bet Obama will mention it as support for his attack on Fox.

Let's show them how we feel about honest conservative news reporting.

To vote log onto:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/10/in_white_house_vs_fox_news_war.html

Then ... forward this to all your conservative friends!

Oops... did I say might?

Okay, guys, we've been rejoicing in our own power of mobilization,
now it looks like the other side wants to play.
They've managed to turn 73% for the White House to 86% for Fox.

ARE WE GOING TO LET THIS STAND?

DON'T let the 'cons have the final word! Not on NPR!
TELL THEM where you stand!

[Buzz Clik]

1. LOL! You need to recruit some of Colbert's listeners to hack the poll.

There's no way that over a million NPR listeners even take polls, God knows support Faux News.

I hope this teaches NPR a valuable lesson about running meaningless polls.

[Mugweed]

3. This HAS to have been hacked.

One million people don't respond to an NPR poll, even if some freeper sent a chain e-mail asking for help. Somebody hacked it.

[Buzz Clik]

4. Absolutely. Same way Colbert won the "Name the Bridge" contest in Hungary or wherever.

One of the Colbert developed a script to vote repeated and distributed it over the Colbert website. Colbert won by a factor of two over the other entries.

[zbdent]

2. did you forward it to NPR?

(along with Media Matters & the like)

NPR needs to know (despite the fact that they probably won't do much about it, since Bush's administration put their foot down on the throat of NPR) that it's not the listeners to NPR who are voting in their poll ... the e-mail proves it ... "because mainly liberals log on to the NPR website" ...

[ShortnFiery]

5. Hell to the NO! What? Did Juan Williams do the data crunching?

:crazy:

[BrklynLiberal]

11. very likely. :D

[DavidDvorkin]

6. Polls with self-selecting samples are meaningless

That's why online polls are meaningless.

[Captain Hilts]

13. THANK YOU. nt

[stubtoe]

7. The poll was botted. Some astute DUers are waaay onto this already:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6901927

One even wrote a script of his own!

[Enthusiast]

8. Have you listened to NPR lately?

Discussions on both the stimulus and health care reform were at times entirely focused on the corporate and right wing perspective. It is like this on nearly every issue. NPR has become another propaganda mechanism.

[wolfgangmo]

15. NPR is now

National pRublican Radio as far as I am concerned.

When I was last solicited for to renew our sponsorship I declined and stated that the reason that I was withdrawing our support was that public support is for stations that are materially different than corporate media and fill a need not met by commercial radio (as their original charter stated).

The person I told this too was kind of "meh" and was about to hang up until I told them that I was cancelling my wifes membership and our companies rather substantial sponsorship. At that point she put a supervisor on the phone. I explained to her what I him. She tried to persued me otherwise. I explained that if they wanted support then they could do their job and until they did we were done.

I don't listen to them much anymore for news and we send money to Minnesota Public Radio and America Radio Works for the shows of theirs that we listen to but NPR is done as far as I am concerned - just another right wing radio station.

[Enthusiast]

16. And this is heart breaking to me.

Because contrary to what Limbaugh says there is no 'liberal media'. There USED TO BE NPR.

[Igel]

9. You know, it's possible to actually uphold a principle.

Compared to a lot of early media sources in the US Fox News is fairly non-partisan. Let's not romanticize the rough-and-tumble kind of journalism that the US had in the late 18th and early 19th century.

Yes, those absurdly, incredibly biased newspapers were what was *intended* to be covered by the Constitution, which basically said that the federal government would have no law restricting them.

One can argue whether the "spirit of the law" would indicate that they shouldn't be intimidated into silence or not, but we have a long tradition of that happening--whether Nixon or JFK, presidents have often used power to shut up and impede voices that they dislike, that they find inconvenient, or which make their lives difficult.

Personally, I rather liked a NYT article recently. Cable news audiences are *all* very politically segregated. Fox News self-segregated first, but other "news" shows caught up with them nicely enough. Now, how do you think they achieved that segregation, considering that they still haven't reached 100% penetration of their target markets? They achieved that segregation through bias--spoken and tacit--in their reporting. Most people simply don't like watching news that undermines what they hold true, whether it's conservatives who don't like that facts have a liberal bias or liberals who resent being mugged by reality.

But being outraged over a self-selected, manipulated, feel-good and utterly pointless poll? Well, by all means--send in the cops. First equip them with jackboots, though, so we can clearly ID them. Or we can try to ensure our own pointless propaganda victory--it has little to do with reality or fact, so any bias or mugging is simply irrelevant.

[Captain Hilts]

14. Read the Chicago Tribune in the 30s and 40s about Eleanor Roosevelt being a thief and FDR, well, you

know.

[cognoscere]

18. As well as the 70's and 80's.

At least, that's when I used to read it. For all I know, the Trib has always been a POS that hired hacks, blowhards, and other assorted shit brains, but that shouldn't come as a surprise given that its founder was a staunch conservative republican shit brain himself. The Trib has never met a republican it wouldn't endorse for the Presidency, with, possibly, the exception of McCain/Palin - I don't know and don't feel like trudging through their archives to find out.

[HughMoran]

10. Even NPR responded that the poll was attacked by bots

The poll is null and void - the only thing I don't understand is why NPR keeps the article active knowing that it was attacked by bots and the results are meaningless.

[Captain Hilts]

12. Cokie Roberts and Juan Williams? No thanks. nt

[Stumbler]

17. While I still like Car Talk and Radiolab, I've given up on NPR for their news coverage.

For weeks after the Nov '08 election, it seemed the only topic of interest on Talk of the Nation was "How will the Republican party get back in power?" And the final decider for me was hearing the host of the same show ask: "Should torture always be illegal? And if so, what should the punishment be for violating such a law?" Until that point, i was under the naive assumption that as a humane society that values personal liberty, WE ALL oppose the use of torture. Always. Hearing NPR give air time, and thus legitimacy, to this "debate" has ensured my lack of support until they make some significant changes.

As for the hacked poll, couldn't they have just made voting available to only those who financially support them? If you made a donation you can vote in our little poll, if not, get lost.

[ThomThom]

19. These kinds of polls are not scientific and should be ignored

What is interesting is how many people fox can get to respond. Scary!