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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 04:59 PM
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Repubs shout "Seig heil!" while a Democrat wins seat in heavily GOP area of N.Y. despite Palin power
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 05:19 PM by JohnWxy
While the Corporate Lobbyist Party declares this years election results was a vindication for the Fascist political philosophy, in the New Jersey race voters mentioned a significant concern was corruption in the state government, and Virginia has been for generations, save for the last Governor, a bastion of Republican obduracy. In New York, a Bill Owens, Democrat, won in a traditionally heavily Republilcan district despite the efforts of former Rep. Senator and actor, Fred Thompson and the Republican star, the famously vapid, Sarah Palin, among other Republican anti- (democratic - small "d" is intentional.) Government subversives. And the Republicans had registered 45,000 more voters than the Democrats! How much is 45,000 voters?..the total vote tally was 121,229, with Owens getting 60,671 (50%).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33608691/ns/politics-more_politics

A Democrat running in a historically Republican stronghold won a closely watched special congressional election in northern New York state, capitalizing on a split that emerged between moderates and conservatives for control of the Republican Party.

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Owens also thanked one-time opponent Dierdre Scozzafava, a moderate Republican who exited the race Saturday under pressure from the party's right wing because of her support of abortion rights and same-sex marriage and momentum behind Hoffman.

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The race has been getting national attention, with some calling it a referendum on President Barack Obama and others saying it could help Republicans focus their message to attract more people to the party.
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Republicans hadn't lost in the region in more than a century.
Owens defeated Hoffman despite a 45,000-voter registration edge for Republicans and big-name endorsements for Hoffman from former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, former Republican Sen. Fred Thompson and others.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:02 PM
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1. Glad we won the seat
I hope it means they cannibalize each other.

BTW, its "Sieg Heil."
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:14 PM
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3. I thought, given the extra Repub "star" power brought to bear this win was significant.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:21 PM
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5. fixed the Title, as per your edit.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:12 PM
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2. You mean it's last 2 governors, and 3 during the Reagan and Bush I regimes..
69 Mark Warner January 12, 2002 January 14, 2006 Democratic
70 Tim Kaine January 14, 2006 Incumbent Democratic

Warner and Kaine were both Democrats.

It also had Democrats from 1982-1994

64 Chuck Robb January 16, 1982 January 18, 1986 Democratic
65 Gerald L. Baliles January 18, 1986 January 14, 1990 Democratic
66 Douglas Wilder January 14, 1990 January 15, 1994 Democratic

They were all Democrats from 1886 to 1970.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:18 PM
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4. thanks. I thought it was a real Republican strong-hold but maybe the impact of north Va (Alexandria)
changes the picture.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:26 PM
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6. US political parites have a complex history.
Until 1948, blacks were not accepted as members of the Democratic Party. When that changed, Strom Thurmond left the Democratic Party and ran on the seggregationist ticket, then became a Republican.

To be fair, all those Democrats until 1970 would be Republicans today. They were southerners who believed in segregation and other racist policies.

The switch began in 1948, when the Democratic party changed. It accelerated when Johnson passed the the Equal Rights Act of 1964. Johnson is quoted to have said at the time, "We've lost the south for a generation." He was wrong by at least a full generation.

The switch was finished when Nixon created the Southern Strategy and used coded racist language in his eleciton. Reagan finished convertaing all but a few of the Southern Democrats when he was elected.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:38 PM
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7. along similar lines, it's odd that Teddy Roosevelt is called a Republican. Yes that was his party ,
but considering his policies, particularly trust busting and conservation he might be considered the first modern Democrat.


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