Republican whackjobs fail miserably in NY 23rd, spelling doom for GOP

[Stingo]

The result in the NY 23rd, where the candidate of the right wing crazies lost a seat that was reliably Republican for generations, just might signal that the GOP has much bigger troubles than it ever thought. This just might open the way for Palin in 2012, and that’s good for comedy writers and the Dems. Bring on the Pageant walking!

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[DrDan]

1. just the opposite I think

sarah's help backfired in 23 - so the her flower is wilting.

However, the moderates are getting attention from Indies. And this cost a couple of governor seats.

I think the door opened a bit wider for a moderate candidate - not sarah.

[Stingo]

3. No

this will only energize the crazies, and they will support her. I predict she will come out stronger than ever amongst the whackjobs, and the GOP will have bigger and bigger problems controlling their party. This is the worst that could have happened to them.

[DrDan]

5. we shall see - I stand by my prediction for a smaller role for her

she did not help one twit in this election - no one cares about her - she is now seen as a twice-flawed candidate.

[wolfgangmo]

14. And I would agree if we were dealing with rational people...

... however I think you are ignoring the chicken choking factor that she engenders among the party faithful.

[SpiralHawk]

4. Nah

Whackjob Homelanders blew it. Traditional Republicons won with salvage votes.

[DrDan]

7. yes they did - that is why their position in the party has shriveled just a bit

[baldguy]

6. No, they're just getting started.

They'll argue the reason Hoffman lost was because Scozzafava & her ilk are traitors to True Republican Conservatism and need to be purged from the party. In 2010, every mainstream GOP candidate will face a RW challenge from the Palinistas - and when they lose it'll touch off another round of purges. Then another, then another.

[DrDan]

8. they can argue whatever they like - the fact of the matter is that sarah was useless

the mainstream party knows this and will treat her accordingly in the next year.

No one thinks she is qualified - just one more whackjob that needs to be put out to pasture.

[baldguy]

10. But the whackjobs can raise money, have the corp media on their side & are in control of the party.

Gingrich & other mainstream Republicans will be the ones put out to pasture. Being qualified & pragmatic are now political liabilities in the new GOP.

[DrDan]

12. the splinter wing perhaps - I see a shift toward the middle and more rational

candidates.

We shall see.

[Stingo]

15. Shift to the middle

would imply Republican sanity. With Steele in charge, kowtowing to Limbaugh? Not a chance.

[Stingo]

11. You've got it right

They will attempt to purge sane Republicans, who are the minority now in that party

[Tsar_Bomba]

16. That is why conservatism itself must be attacked

The conservative wackos will not listen to reason, have you ever debated a religious person? It's like talking to a wall. Conservatives believe that conservative ideas cannot fail, they can only be failed. That's why they say GWB is not a conservative now. 8 years ago he was the second coming of St. Reagan. So an all out effort should be to call out conservative economic, domestic, and foreign policy a failure and make the word "conservative" as a moniker for failure.

[beac]

17. I wouldn't read too much into VA & NJ as bellwethers.

VA changes hands pretty regularly and almost always is the mirror opposite of the White House. In NJ, people hated Corzine for many reasons, especially his Wall Street ties.


As for a moderate Republican candidate in 2012, good luck to him or her in getting past the whackjob primary voters.


I think Sarah's flower has been wilting for a long time. Lucky for us, she and her supporters do not, so they keep shoveling... um... manure... onto her little garden of insanity-- with the nice side effect that she is siphoning money that might have gone to the GOP coffers into her various slush funds/PAC.

[napi21]

2. Of all the races yesterday, I wanted to win THIS one most!

Not because I really care about some county in NY, but because I so wanted to kick Sarah, Army, Santorum & the rest of the WN's square in the b....!

[Bitwit1234]

9. As I said yesterday

Virginia has a record of being split down the middle in electing governors. Half dem and half republican. Since they have had two democrats they went republican...there is still some of the Farwell crowd alive and active in the whole of southern Virginia. And the young and the black didn't get motivited to turn out.

If you look at New Jersey record you see different in the last over a hundred years, republicans have won the governorship 3 to 1. So the republicans winning again was just the way it goes.

What is also telling is the fact that Hoffman got beat. That shows that they repubicans in this district are sick and tired of the way out screaming violent right wing nuts are not going to tell them what to do. If they hadn't shown up in New York, I doubt seriously if Owens would have won, Scozzafava would have probably won and the broo haha would have never happened. I think that is the most telling of the races.

It is a real disappointment that the two democrat governors lost but the odds were against them.

[Stingo]

13. I'm not crying

The Hoffman loss is a great sign of things to come.