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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:04 PM
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Forget NY-23. Check out CA-10 (Kilkenny | TrueSlant)
California's 10th congressional district (Image from wrhammons.com)

Jay Ackroyd raises an interesting question: what’s with the media’s obsessive coverage of the NY-23 race? Sure, there’s the obvious “Look at what the crazy Conservative fringe is doing to Scozzafava!” appeal, but beyond that, NY-23 is no more impressive or provocative than another race on the opposite coast in California’s 10th congressional district, home to over half a million US residents.

Lt. Gov. John Garamendi, a fixture in state and national politics for 35 years, is expected to maintain the Democratic Party’s hold Tuesday on a congressional seat that stretches from the eastern San Francisco Bay area through the California delta ...

As Steven Benen over at Political Animal points out, Garamendi is running on a Progressive platform. He supports single-payer health insurance, the federal stimulus package, a strong cap-and-trade system to help cut greenhouse gas emissions, the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and gay marriage. Garamendi is facing Republican David Harmer, the son of former California Lt. Gov. John Harmer, who’s basing his campaign on an anti-spending agenda. Garamendi is considered the heavy favorite.

This would be a hefty victory for Progressives, but the media has pretty much ignored the story. Sure, it’s not as negatively entertaining as the Machiavellian drama unwinding in New York. Rather, this victory will mean a huge swathe of California is willing to grant a progressive mandate to a candidate, and that’s positively exciting.

http://trueslant.com/allisonkilkenny/2009/11/03/forget-ny-23-check-out-ca-10/
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:11 PM
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1. Is a progressive winning in California news? Seriously?If it is ,we
are in deep doo doo! Or is that a red area of CA? It doesn't seem to be. The ny is news because neither a Repug or a Dem are winning. A conservative indie is beating them both( or beating the Dem because he forced the gOP candidate out) . This is a seat that has been GOP controlled for 50 years! This is a real story.CA? Not so much.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:22 PM
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2. You can go either way.
California used to be a Republican state, not that long ago either. Remember Pete Wilson? And this is not intrinsically a left-wing bastion like San Francisco for example.

On the other hand, this is a gerrymandered Dem district, not like kicking out Pombo or that sort of thing.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:22 PM
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3. Here's the reason it's a story, saracat. First, party control of CA-10 has shifted several times
within living memory, whereas nobody alive can remember Ds controlling NY-23: so CA-10 is a better bellwether than NY-23. Second, the pundits are babbling about the possibility of a possible right-turn in NY-23, while ignoring an almost certain left-turn in CA-10. Both of these facts are relevant in any of the many nonsensical "It's a rejection of Obama" discussions we'll hear if the wingnut wins NY-23
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:48 PM
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4. What about if he does not win?
A possibility that doesn't seem to have entered your head.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 08:59 PM
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9. What are you talking about ??
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 09:06 PM by harkadog
We (Dems) controlled NY 23 until 1993. Nobody alive can remember the early 90s? Well maybe in California. Since WW II ended there have been 9 Democrats and 4 Republicans who have been congressmen from NY 23. Obama took the district 53% to 47% in 2008. NY 23 is the same size as CA 10. What BS.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:32 PM
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11. Don't confuse the district number with the geographical location:
"District 23" until the early 1980s included parts of the Bronx -- but that's not the geographical region under discussion. What was "District 23" in 1993 is currently "District 21" -- but that's not the geographical region under discussion
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:18 PM
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7. Local media reported today, Ca 10 is less Dem than we think
Contra Costa county is San Francisco's far out suburbs to the east. Yes, the Dem's are favored by Contra Costa has some pretty rock solid Gooper cities. Before the previous Congresswoman , it had had a string of GOpper congressman. Don't think it's impossible to be lost..
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:05 PM
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5. Big Media is focussed on NY-23 because
even though it's been (R) for 120 years, if it stays (R) they'll consider it repudiation of Obama.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:14 PM
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10. But what if it turns D?...
that's what I want to see
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:34 PM
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12. Then they will talk about VA Governor all day
any discussion of NY-23 if it turns (D) will be focused on ACORN.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:14 PM
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6. Sarah Palin is a train wreck and the media loves a train wreck.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:24 PM
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8. It is so funny the right wingnuts always say the liberal MSM. If it is so
than why aren't we hearing more about this race? The MSM and rightwing go hand and hand. Don't believe the shit that the MSM is liberal.
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