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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:07 AM
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The Netroots Take the Gloves Off
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-31/the-netroots-take-the-gloves-off/full/

The Netroots Take the Gloves Off
by Art Levine

They pushed the public option back onto the table. Now, liberal activists are stepping up the pressure on Obama—and hitting wavering moderates with corruption charges.


The liberal activists and bloggers who helped keep the public option alive—pressuring Democratic leaders after it was declared virtually dead a month ago—are now stepping up their attacks against any senator in the Democratic caucus who might join a Republican filibuster. For good measure, many of them are also sharply criticizing President Obama for failing to pressure legislators for strong reforms. Their criticism of Obama has been echoed in milder terms by such outspoken reformers as Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) and Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY). Weiner said bluntly on MSNBC, “If the President calls , it’s tough to say no. We’ve been kind of left to do this on our own, and we need the full-throated support of the president at a time like this when we’re having a big national debate.” As a result of Obama’s absent leadership, the watered-down House version of the public option unveiled Thursday wasn’t fully competitive or affordable, he noted.

Some cable TV talk shows are filled with liberal critics. MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show showcased more intra-party attacks by featuring influential bloggers Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake (twice) and Glenn Greenwald of Salon.com, who lobbed incendiary allegations of health-industry corruption involving Senators Evan Bayh and Joe Lieberman – and their wives.

Before Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced his support for a public option with an opt-out for states on Oct. 26, he and wavering Democrats were subjected to withering TV attack ads; polling sponsored by the 100,000-member Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) last week that disclosed a majority of Nevada voters regarded Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as “weak,”, and phone-banking sponsored by the Firedoglake PAC threatening Reid, up for reelection, with a primary challenger.

Now the targets have been expanded to those in the Democratic caucus who may join a filibuster. “This is out-and-out corruption,” Hamsher, a movie producer (Natural Born Killers) turned progressive blogger, told The Daily Beast. She charged that lucrative donations to the Bayh and Lieberman campaigns by health industries and the health-related corporate positions of their wives amounted to “legalized bribery.”

Whether it’s due to such public pressure or merely a change of heart, Bayh, for one, has already “clarified”–or altered–on Oct. 29 the stance he took just the day before, when he leaned toward supporting a filibuster. Then he told CBS’s Bob Schieffer he may block a bill from moving forward for a vote if he didn’t consider it “fiscally responsible.” But a day later his office released a statement, “Senator Bayh will support moving forward to a health care debate on the Senate floor, where he will work hard to address his concerns…” He later added that it would be “extremely unlikely” that he’d filibuster against the bill.

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At least two major membership organizations so far, Howard Dean’s Democracy for America (DFA) with one million members and the five-million-member MoveOn.Org Political Action have launched initiatives against pro-filibuster Democrats. The DFA campaign urges members to ask Democrats to strip any filibuster proponents of their chairmanships. The group is on track to have 150,000 signatures on its petition by next week.

“I would like to see the President fight much harder, but this {health reform} is an issue progressives can fight for and Congress can make happen,” says Charles Chamberlain, DFA’s political director. “We can do the arm-twisting.”
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:34 AM
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1. “I would like to see the President fight much harder, but this [health reform]...........


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-31/the-netroots-take-the-gloves-off/full

..........“I would like to see the President fight much harder, but this is an issue progressives can fight for and Congress can make happen,” says Charles Chamberlain, DFA’s political director. “We can do the arm-twisting.”

Art Levine, a contributing editor of The Washington Monthly, has written for Mother Jones, The American Prospect, The New Republic, The Atlantic, Slate.com, Salon.com, and numerous other publications. He also blogs regularly on labor, health, and other reform issues for In These Times and Huffington Post.

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:51 AM
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2. Never mind, Mr. President. We'll do it.
Yes WE can. Even if you won't.

Who exactly is the leader here?

Oh yeah, I forgot. I'm not allowed to say that.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:53 AM
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3. Have you ever herded cats? Do you know specifically
what he has and hasn't done? Do you know what the final bill will look like after they're all melded together in conference?

I didn't think so.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:13 PM
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6. Yes. He's fighting against the po and for the trigger.
Against Harry Reid's opt-out. Congressman Weiner says they are waiting (dying!) for him to really pulll up his sleeves and lead the Congress.

Listen, I want very much to believe that Obama wants what we want for HCR. I'm just finding little to support that belief and more to support the idea that he is not leading this fight at all. His main requirement for reform appears to be bipartisan support. Thus his singling out for praise the people who've worked hardest agaist robust reform. That's not healthcare reform. That's politics.

I'll gladly eat crow if I am wrong. But right now I don't believe he's led on this. He's out front, but he is not leading.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 04:04 AM
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13. guess again
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:39 PM
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9. Take a Hint, Obama! Or Get Out of the Way
There's a story about Robespierre that has the preeminent rabble-rouser of the French Revolution leaping up from his chair as soon as he saw a mob assembling outside.

"I must see which way the crowd is headed," Robespierre is reputed to have said: "For I am their leader."
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 08:21 AM
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4. It is war, it was always going to be a war, there is no point in playing footsie.
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 08:22 AM by bemildred
Edit: FWIW, I have never considered that this is up to Obama, it's up to us, Obama's job is to not veto the result. We have to make the Congress obey.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:53 AM
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5. bingo!
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:50 PM
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7. Bingo Again!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:27 PM
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8. If Obama really was for serious healthcare reform, he'd threaten waverers with primary challenges
Some who are in dicey districts wouldn't be vulnerable to this strategy, but those who are in safely blue ones could be quickly brought into line. Lyndon Johnson wouldn't have put up with virtually any of the nonsense that we're experiencing now.

The premise that is called into question is the one that people blindly accept: that our President really wants comprehensive reform. I don't question his humanity here as I do his sense; he truly seems to feel that private enterprise is the necessary answer for everything.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 02:26 PM
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10. This President wants to govern from the CENTER. Disabuse yourself of any other notions or
you will never understand why he is staying out of this fight. It pains me greatly that we cannot count on President Obama to use muscle on the wayward Dems and to stand up for a ROBUST public option, not the watered-down Corporate gift package that Congress is sliding toward.

My money is going to FDL and DFA among others, but I am seriously pissed that this package of crap is being called "reform".

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:18 PM
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11. "hitting wavering moderates with corruption charges."
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 03:19 PM by depakid
First of all, they're not in any way "moderate" - and more importantly most indeed corrupt.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:19 PM
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12. K&R. (nt)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 06:19 PM
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14. wish I'd seen this in time to rec' it. Is there more than one Dem filibuster PROponet?!
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