This is what happens in any war

[varun]

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FE04Ak03.html

Who let the dogs out?

So now you know. Thanks to prime-time television, you, the American people, understand that war is horrible. The mystery is why you didn't know before, why you are outraged now. Perhaps the answer is, if it's not on TV, it's not happening. So, credit to CBS's 60 Minutes II for finally showing part of the truth - that Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison have been undergoing the horrors of war at American hands. No credit to the US media for pulling the wool over your eyes about this war for so long. No credit to you for being appalled now - you should have known that this is what happens in any war, no matter whose side God is on...

..Your president thunders that prisoner abuse "is not the American way". Maybe he really thinks so - he never saw service in Vietnam, or any other war, after all. Maybe his advisers just didn't tell him what really goes on in war. But to all but the simple-minded and the rose-bespectacled, this is not only the American way of war, it is the way of all sides in all wars...

[Direckshun]

1. That bolded part is killer. (n/t)

[amber dog democrat]

2. I knew former US Marines

who said they tortured suspected Viet Cong prisoners. But without documentation
you are not going to get serious attention. Thankfully this came out.
I hope we look at the underlying premise of the ends justifys the means -

But I am very disturbed by the smiling images of lyndrie England posing next to these
prisoners. Looks like she has gotten her 15 minutes of fame.

[izzie]

3. I knew German men who were in the Germany army so saw ----

a lot of stuff and war is always the same. You learn to kill or be killed. To bad if a child or old man or women gets in your way. Armies do not build they blow up. My own father recalls his grandfather who came home from the civil war with one leg. So I guess we were always an anti-war family even if I did live in the middle of the service for 20 years.Maybe we should take some lessons from Europe. They have been at it for 100's of years and looks like they may have finally learned some thing.