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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:02 PM
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Salon: Mystery Man (James Bath)
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:03 PM by TacticalPeak
Mystery man

Why the White House deleted the name of Bush pal and Saudi go-between James Bath from the president's military records is a tantalizing but unanswered question.

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By Craig Unger

April 27, 2004 |

Last month, before the 9/11 commission began its public hearings and Iraq exploded in renewed warfare, the White House tried to quell a gathering storm regarding President Bush's military service, releasing hundreds of documents about Bush's tenure in the Texas Air National Guard some 30 years ago. A close examination of the documents reveals that they not only fail to answer lingering questions about Bush's service but prompt a crucial new area of inquiry that could play a role in the presidential campaign -- a long and lucrative, but low-profile, relationship between Saudis and the Bush family that goes back 30 years.

The document that raises that question is dated Sept. 29, 1972, and notes that 1st Lt. George W. Bush was suspended from flying because of his "failure to accomplish annual medical examination." Since he had just received hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of training as a jet fighter pilot, the fact that Bush let his medical certification lapse raises a troubling matter. Why did he allow himself to become ineligible to fly when he still had two years of service left? Given that random drug testing by the military had just started, some have suggested that Bush had not yet given up his partying ways and may have begged off because he had a substance abuse problem.

The records released by the White House last month fail to answer that question, but they do add one compelling fact to the story -- namely, that Bush was not the only man in his unit to be suspended for failing to take the physical, and that someone else at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston was suspended for exactly the same reason at almost the same time.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/04/27/james_bath/index_np.html

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:26 PM
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1. Does it go into the federal investigation into James Bath and Salem
Salem bin Laden? James Bath was investigated by the feds under Bush Daddy (which means that Bush Daddy had a federal investigation of three sons, and of W twice.). Bush was asked about his relationship with Bath, who was the intermediary between Bush and Salem bin Laden, and claimed he didn't really know Bath. When the feds proved he did, Bush retracted his under-oath statement, and gave some other variation of the comment.

He didn't know James Bath, he didn't know Ken Lay, he didn't know John W Hinckley. Bush doesn't know a lot of people he knows.

Hope the article goes into that.
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:30 AM
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2. Indict Bush on only ONE thing and the rest will fall like dominoes
...but prompt a crucial new area of inquiry that could play a role in the presidential campaign -- a long and lucrative, but low-profile, relationship between Saudis and the Bush family that goes back 30 years.
This alone should bring an indictment, considering the Saudis were excorted quietly out of America after 9-11.
That the pilots of 9-11 were mainly Saudis.
That the Riggs bank has hid Saudi hush money.
That Osama will NEVER be captured by US troops since Bush will protect him. BECAUSE he's a Bin Laden. Though semingly disowned by the family, Osama is STILL Bin Laden blood.
That Bandar was given pre war info by Bush Co. and sits closely between Cheney & Bush.

Can anyone in the House & Senate put two & two together now?
Are we DUers actually more apt to see the obvious than those who live off our tax $$?

Like yelling in the wind.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 08:04 AM
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4. You have to understand the type of person in Congress
To understand why they don't react to stories like this. First, they are told stories like this daily, about both parties, even about friends of theirs. 99% of the conspiracy theories they hear are ridiculous nonsense. So they tune out anything that doesn't have a federal indictment attached to it.

Second, they are busy. They don't have time to read as much as we do here. They have staff that does it for them, then summarizes, but in summary, again, some of these ideas don't make much sense. They assume someone else will take care of it and report back to them if they learn something.

Third, most people in Congress face a dozen of these types of accusations each time they run for reelection. They know it is a lie about them, so they give others the benefit of the doubt. Especially people of the same party.

Fourth, even those few who believe there is something to it aren't going to shout about it without proof. Look what happened to Cynthia McKinney. Even those who aren't afraid of looking like idiots know that speaking out is wasting their breath without proof.

Fifth, keep in mind that people who run are type As. They are aggressive, with quick attention spans, and don't dwell on things they can't do anything about. It's just their personalities. If they had other personalities, they wouldn't get elected as often.

Sixth, there are a lot of facts in stories like these, but there are also a lot of tenuous connections without proof. We know that Bush has had a close connection to the Saudi gov't, and to the Bin Laden family, through investments. We know Bush has been investigated. We know Bush got the Bin Ladens out of America after 9-11. That's what we know. The idea that there is a history of complicency, or less, just of being blinded to the wrongdoings of friends, is another argument. It is constructed from facts, but the facts can lead to other conclussions, especially when stretched out over that long a period. Everyone in Congress can be linked to unsavory business deals, often that they aren't aware of. It's the nature of money. There aren't a lot of really rich people, and so money tends to be connected at that level. You can play monetary seven degrees of Kevin Bacon all day long, and link anyone with over 200K to a terrorist, a drug dealer, a criminal. They did it to Clinton. You can do it to anyone. So again, Congress isn't inclined to believe these connections, since those same types of connections have been drawn about most of them.

Even Bush hurrying the Bin Ladens out of America makes sense, even by Bush's explanation. He was worried about the backlash to the family. They were investigated and found to have no connection. For their safety, they had to be flown out, quickly. What can be more American than protecting the underdog? heck, I even believe it. Think about it-- if they had some knowledge of what was about to happen, why in the hell would they have been here still? They would have understood what blame they would face.

That's all stuff you have to understand to get anything done in Washington. It's also why you can't plan on the magic wand of impeachment or even the smoking gun of damning evidence being waved at Bush. We have to beat him the old fashioned way, and all of our efforts have to go to that. Otherwise, we will wind up like the Republicans in 965, wondering why no one saw how bad a guy our opponent was. It wasn't true with Clinton, it is with Bush, but without strong evidence -- and Bush is hiding that-- most people can't see the difference.

We look no different to the outside world than the accusers of Clinton did. You know that, right? To an independent, to a non-involved voter, and to much of Congress, that's how we look.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:22 AM
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3. This is the last guy in the world junior wants to see
Bath may be dead. If not 'ya gotta know he's running around with a fake name and it isn't here in the U.S.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:27 AM
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5. For the interested... Dave Emory
Dave Emory, a radio-based researcher has been reporting on the Bushes for ages.

This is good stuff.
http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/DX
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:57 PM
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6. Bath info.
Bath is the go-between for the Bin Laden family in the US. Read Fortunate Son.
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