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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:47 PM
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Scientists Worry Machines May Outsmart Man.
Impressed and alarmed by advances in artificial intelligence, a group of computer scientists is debating whether there should be limits on research that might lead to loss of human control over computer-based systems that carry a growing share of society’s workload, from waging war to chatting with customers on the phone.

Their concern is that further advances could create profound social disruptions and even have dangerous consequences.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/science/26robot.html?hp


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tj2001 Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:48 PM
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1. Just unplug
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 07:39 AM
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16. not so simple any longer...now that they are creating witricity and wifi
and wii...no wires needed! and bacteria for computing!!! no need even for batteries!!!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:49 PM
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2. If only this possibility had been explored in fiction before we have to face it in reality.
If only...
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:51 PM
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3. Advances in technology creating social disruptions? Say it ain't so! (nt)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 09:53 PM
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4. Its already here ....60% of us cannot compute 7 x 9 accurately
Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 09:53 PM by opihimoimoi
40% of us do not read..and when we do...its limited
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:04 PM
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5. Too late to worry
Must go. Toaster wants something.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:16 PM
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6. Machines are already outsmarting men, and it's mostly good
as is the "loss of human control".

For example, I'm extremely relieved that a computer landed my Airbus A340 last week instead of a pilot. Soft as silk.

This is news?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:19 PM
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7. At the rate Americans are becoming stupider, this should happen in 6 months or so.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:21 PM
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8. Asta la vista, baby.
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GiveMeFreedom Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:56 AM
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14. Governor, is that you? n/t
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:39 PM
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9. And to think I was just discussing
Artificial Intelligence (AI) with my son about 45 minutes ago.

He said that true AI will probably never be developed because the kind of non-linear thinking that humans do just can't be programmed linearly.

Computers are very good at doing things like math very quickly, but they have essentially no ability to think creatively, to gain insights from limited data. Think of Archimedes in the bath, or Newton under the apple tree. The "Aha!" moment that many of us have when we put together random information doesn't happen with computers. And probably never will.
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whyverne Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:50 PM
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10. Computers will never be able to play chess like humans.
I remember reading that back in the early '70s. Never say never.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 10:56 PM
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11. True AI may not be programmable, but I think it can be "grown", like we are.
And like us it will be unpredictable and unreliable, chaotic, imperfect. It might even have to "die".
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 12:02 AM
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12. Kitchen appliances outsmart most Freepers. nt
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Rincewind Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:14 AM
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13. Door stops
outsmart most freepers.
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GiveMeFreedom Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 01:57 AM
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15. Toliet paper
outsmarts most freepers.
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