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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:02 PM
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We Will Never See Iranians The Same Way Again
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We Will Never See Iranians The Same Way Again
By M.J. Rosenberg - June 20, 2009, 8:19PM


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The Iranian people are demonstrating a fearlessness, a commitment to democracy, a valor, that is literally awe-inspiring.

We are seeing young and old people together risking their lives to bring down this hateful regime. Young people with their whole lives ahead of them are risking everything for rights we extol but take for granted. Can any of us honestly say that we know we would do the same thing?

I don't know how this will end. But I do know this. After this week, no American will credibly be able to talk about Iranians as if they are something other than fellow human beings who want the same things we do. No one will be able to say that they don't value freedom or that they would cheerfully give up their lives to crush Israel.

America's problems with the government of Iran are not over. If the monstrous mullah regime stays in power, they are probably going to intensify. But our war with the Iranian people is over. Both sides won.

Transforming the image of Iran in the minds of Americans is not why the people are in the streets. They are not risking death to transform their nation's image.

But they have achieved that anyway. And, no matter how this ends, that transformation will ultimately benefit Iranians and Americans, and save lives among both peoples.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:06 PM
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1. Nice companion piece to the Sully article.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 12:35 PM
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2. Was there ever any doubt that the "monstrous mullah regime"
was going to remain in power no matter who was elected?

All of this seems like so much CIA inspired clap-trap.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 01:38 AM
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10. It's badly broken, though.

As broken as the Shah's regime was after Ayatollah Khomeini arrived back in Iran.

It will limp along for a while, but it has lost its religious purpose.
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condoleeza Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 01:27 PM
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3. Great article, thanks for posting n/t
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:49 PM
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4. "But our war with the Iranian people is over. Both sides won."
Indeed. K&R.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:51 PM
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5. Thanks for posting. So true. The images of defiance to brutal repression are seared
into our hearts. We Americans look back at what our government did to those people under the Shah and later...
And then our support for the eight years of bloodshed in the Iraq/Iran war. And then for the Iranians to witness the US completely destroy their neighbor Iraq, it's a wonder they don't hate us more...

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 02:54 PM
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6. I am constantly amazed at the ability of people to rise above hate. K & R nt
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:19 PM
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7. Optimism is a candle flickering in a howling gale of world events. Good for you for
keeping it lit.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 03:50 PM
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8. And you. nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 04:06 PM
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9. "We have been seeing Iranians in the wrong way all this time."
:thumbsup:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:05 AM
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11. Good article. Thanks for posting it.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 03:52 AM
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12. Great article!
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 04:35 AM
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13. It's the governments that are evil, not necessarily the people...
look at the evil shit we went through for eight years
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:45 AM
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14. So try not to bomb the living bejesus out of them
next time an American government decides they are a danger to your very existence and the wonderful American way, eh?
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Lost Jaguar Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:01 AM
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15. So many right wing blowhards...
...spoke of nuking Iran, of turning the sand into glass, in previous times. Shame on them for saying such things then, and double shame if they say it in the future. And how bizarre that some of them now speak of the "courageous Iranians"--as well they should--yet before they were so willing to "kill them all and let God sort them out."
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