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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 09:33 PM
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"Trial Of The ‘Deep State’" - Newsweek's Grenville Byford on Ergenekon in Turkey

It looks like this scandal is finally starting to get some good visiblity in American press now.

Just today in the trials around this scandal, they've found weapon's caches that were linked to the alleged coup plotters, adding fuel to the argument that these trials are more than just "political trials" by the ruling "Islamist" party against the nationalist party generals and other leaders.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a29dcfba-deb8-11dd-9464-000077b07658.html

From:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/178767

Trial Of The ‘Deep State’

Prosecutors in Turkey's Ergenekon trial are rounding up top military leaders.

Jan 9, 2009


Grenville Byford

The Ergenekon "Gang," Turkish prosecutors say, schemed to remove the country's governing by promoting public chaos and, subsequently, a military coup. Among their chosen methods: murder. Over the past year prosecutors have arrested or put on trial two retired four-star generals and 84 other people. On Wednesday, they arrested 37 more, including two more retired four-stars. They also rounded up nine serving officers, which required the permission of the General Staff. Wednesday's raids led police to a large cache of arms and explosives. Even in Turkey, where coup rumors flourish and generals regularly make political statements, this is sensational stuff.

Gen. Ilker Basbug, chief of the General Staff, met with the commanders of the Army, Air Force and Jandarma for six hours on Wednesday. Their wives were dispatched to call on the wives of arrested former generals. The following day, Basbug requested a meeting with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and went on to see President Abdullah Gul. Deniz Baykal, leader of the main opposition party CHP, claimed again that the Ergenekon probe is a government attempt to silence opposition. That can hardly be true because in Turkey, prosecutors are not supervised by the government. That job belongs to the Supreme Council of Judges and Prosecutors, a body composed of five senior judges, a civil servant and the justice minister. Rumors are now circulating that the council is under pressure to investigate the Ergenekon prosecutor. This would not be a first. In 2006 it disbarred a prosecutor in eastern Turkey who was investigating whether anyone was behind two Jandarma NCOs convicted of bombing a bookstore in Semdinli and killing a man.

Amid all this activity, what is actually going on? Ergenekon in a broad sense is a "political trial," though not in the crude way Baykal means. The guns and explosives are all too real. So too are the murders allegedly instigated by those in the dock. They stand accused, for example, of procuring the murder of Armenian journalist Hrant Dink last year and a senior judge in 2006. This was dressed up as an Islamist crime, and blame was attached to the (allegedly Islamist) AK Party for inspiring such things. The evidence against some of the accused is persuasive. This trial is not something cooked up by the government. To be sure, some of those who've been arrested may be guilty of nothing more than expressing their wish to the wrong people that the AK Party would vanish. Even if the prosecution is holding some innocents, though, it doesn't mean there is no fire beneath the smoke. That some of those arrested have been held for six months without charge is not a scandal in Turkey as it would be in the United States; Turkish criminal procedure, for better or worse, allows it. Rarely, though, are retired generals treated thus.
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What makes the trial political is something Turks call the "deep state." This, almost every Turk believes, exercises real power in their country alongside, and usually in opposition to, Turkey's duly elected governments. Actually, however, there are two deep states: a clean one and a dirty one. The former comprises many members of Turkey's secular elite. These are, on the whole, decent people—generals, bureaucrats, judges, businessmen and academics. Commonly referred to as "Kemalists," they see themselves as the guardians of the secular republic. In intent they follow a slogan from Ataturk's time: government "for the people, despite the people." And because they believe that AK Party threatens secularism, they have no respect for its democratic mandate—nor do they have any serious evidence. I doubt Mustafa Kemal Ataturk would be a Kemalist today. "We are going," he said "to advance our country to the level of the most civilized and prosperous countries." In modern parlance, he wanted Turkey to join the First World, with all that implies about freedom and democracy. The dirty deep state is the evil twin. It kills people, among other things. The political question is whether the clean deep state will protect the dirty one to ensure its own survival. Or whether, indeed, it should survive at all. Its fate rests with three key players: the judiciary, the generals and the AK Party.

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 09:58 PM
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1. I wonder which of the key players....
...hold the papers on Denny Hastert? Has anyone here, seen my old friend Sibel....can you tell me where she's gone...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:09 PM
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2. I believe she and Luke are taking more their sets of breaks now for personal pursuits...
Edited on Fri Jan-09-09 10:09 PM by calipendence
I know a little more about some of them, but I think I'll let them have their privacy. Nothing earth shattering or political (at least to my knowledge)...
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