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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:17 PM
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Bush caught lying about Kerry's record

Bush caught lying about Kerry's record


The president's (sic) latest attack is even more dishonest than the last.
By Fred Kaplan


Bush and his operatives are making a practice of mischaracterizing the voting record of the presumptive Democratic nominee. Two weeks ago, the Republican National Committee put out a "Research Brief" that flagrantly distorted Kerry's votes on weapons systems. (Click here for the real facts.) Bush's remarks yesterday are more dishonest still.

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On the same day that Kerry's bill was read on the Senate floor, two of his colleagues, ”Democrat Bob Kerrey and Republican Arlen Specter,” introduced a similar measure. Their bill would have cut the budget of the National Reconnaissance Office, the division of the U.S. intelligence community in charge of spy satellites.

According to that day's Congressional Record, Specter said he was offering an amendment "to address concerns about financial practices and management" at the NRO. Specifically, "the NRO has accumulated more than $1 billion in unspent funds without informing the Pentagon, CIA, or Congress." He called this accumulation "one more example of how intelligence agencies sometimes use their secret status to avoid accountability."

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This was the same $1.5 billion that John Kerry was proposing to cut, ”over a five-year period,” in his bill. It had nothing to do with intelligence, terrorism, or anything of substance. It was a motion to rescind money that had been handed out but never spent.

In other words, it's as if Kerry had once filed for a personal tax refund and Bush accused him of raiding the Treasury.

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http://slate.msn.com/id/2096874

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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:27 PM
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1. once again the record shows that bush is a liar and a crook.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:58 PM
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It always shows that...
I am stunned on the rare occasion (they have been so few and far between that I cannot recall a single one, though I remember there being a handful of them) that he doesn't reveal himself as a liar and crook (and fraud and mean coward, too, don't forget).
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:35 AM
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14. Yes his MO is consistent.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 08:37 AM by benfranklin1776
Tell lies loudly and long enough and hope that people believe them as truths. Thanks to time constraints on people, who are working longer and harder, and the truncated nature of television coverage of these types of issues it often succeeds. Although not this time as Junior has an opponent who is forcefully calling him out on his distortions. His credibility gap is becoming more and more glaringly apparent and it will eventually consume him like Nixon.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:38 PM
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2. Thanks for posting those two stories..I needed a source to
combat Bush's charges with my brother-in-law.
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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:58 PM
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3. No problem :)
:dem:
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 06:50 PM
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4. Why dont the dems....
fight back when they hear this and tell the truth of what happned regarding Kerry's vote. Also, the dems can say that Bush cut from the budget money for counter terrorism before 911. Who do the dems and the media for that matter ignore this fact?
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HEFFA Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:12 PM
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5. Yet Another Campaign of Misinformation
I can't help but laugh when I talk to neocons and dittoheads who continue to insist glibly that noone can beat Bush. At present, situations like the one described provide the best evidence to the contrary. Why would a "president" with no chance of defeat present such a singularly fearful image? Lil' Georgie and his cronies know all too well the reality of his reelection chances -- they are rapidly deteriorating. Therefore, rather than focusing energies on concocting something positive about the past four years that he has spent squatting on public land in Washington and "leading" the nation, they have resorted to a campaign of misinformation and attacks against John Kerry. The simple reality is that absolutely NOTHING positive and/or complimentary can be said or supported when speaking of the Thief in Chief.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:44 PM
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8. Let them be complacent and continue to believe that.
If they can't/won't be converted against shrub, if they are complacent and have lower turnout than us so much the better.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:10 AM
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6. If Kerry is unwilling/unable to take everything GWB says about him
and turn it against GWB with a ferocious double-barrel blast of vicious rhetoric, unless he is willing to be just as nasty or more so, blast GWB's entire record holistically, he will almost surely lose. In this day and age, if Democrats are not at least as nasty as the opponent, unless they turn every dirty trick in their arsenal against them, defeat is almost certain. Fortunately Kerry's best weapon, however, is just to expose GWB by telling the truth, the whole truth.
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HEFFA Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:42 PM
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7. I respectfully disagree
I think that this approach only reduces Kerry and Democrats in general to the same low level as their opponents. I am a personal proponent of using reason and logic to illuminate the strength of liberal positions. To resort to overly simplistic and emotional tactics merely because the Republicans have also done so is to employ their limited mindset. It also allows them to dictate the parameters of the discussion. One critical point that most politically and socially conservative folks miss out on is that the solution to our collective problems is rarely (and has rarely been) achieved through the application of force (be it military, rhetorical, political, etc.), and the continual application of added force does not lead to a quicker or more effective solution. We know what a negative campaign will do the electorate. If negativity rules the campaign, then the voters will turn off as they always do, and NOBODY will win. Let's rise above the vitriolic rhetoric and the continual controversies that the neocons (and their media lackeys) thrive upon. Let's discuss the issues in mature and respectful ways and let the weight of our arguments set a new direction for political discourse...both in this campaign and in the future.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:45 PM
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9. Welcome to DU, HEFFA!
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HEFFA Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:50 AM
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12. Many thanks Mayberry!
It's so nice to have some intelligent political conversations with people.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:33 PM
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10. What else can he do? Lie about his own?
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 05:33 AM
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11. Yup. He's a despicable lying SOB. Keep spreading the word.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:07 AM
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13. Election Turnout
"If negativity rules the campaign, then the voters will turn off as they always do, and NOBODY will win."

If the Dems that are voters turn out in a much higher number than in 2000 and vote for Kerry he will win. It seems that the Dem party is much more united and strident than it has been for years. This election seems to be more important to a lot of people than the last one. It seems that even many Greens may vote for Kerry because he is quite strong on the environment and alternative fuel sources.

The Dems cannot be complacent nor can they allow for deception and outright lies by the Repubs to stand. They need not be nasty about it but they must be agressive and persistent. I believe that W. Clark would be the best choice for VP because he can stridently counter the pure BS that the Repubs are spouting regarding Foreign policy issues. He may also bring in many Repub. moderates and perhaps a few Southern states.
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