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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:14 AM
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What Makes People Vote Republican?
Edge blog
Jonathan Haidt is Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of Virginia, where he does research on morality and emotion and how they vary across cultures. He is the author of The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom.

...the second rule of moral psychology is that morality is not just about how we treat each other (as most liberals think); it is also about binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way. When Republicans say that Democrats "just don't get it," this is the "it" to which they refer.

What makes people vote Republican? Why in particular do working class and rural Americans usually vote for pro-business Republicans when their economic interests would seem better served by Democratic policies? We psychologists have been examining the origins of ideology ever since Hitler sent us Germany's best psychologists, and we long ago reported that strict parenting and a variety of personal insecurities work together to turn people against liberalism, diversity, and progress. But now that we can map the brains, genes, and unconscious attitudes of conservatives, we have refined our diagnosis: conservatism is a partially heritable personality trait that predisposes some people to be cognitively inflexible, fond of hierarchy, and inordinately afraid of uncertainty, change, and death. People vote Republican because Republicans offer "moral clarity" — a simple vision of good and evil that activates deep seated fears in much of the electorate. Democrats, in contrast, appeal to reason with their long-winded explorations of policy options for a complex world.

Diagnosis is a pleasure. It is a thrill to solve a mystery from scattered clues, and it is empowering to know what makes others tick. In the psychological community, where almost all of us are politically liberal, our diagnosis of conservatism gives us the additional pleasure of shared righteous anger. We can explain how Republicans exploit frames, phrases, and fears to trick Americans into supporting policies (such as the "war on terror" and repeal of the "death tax") that damage the national interest for partisan advantage.

But with pleasure comes seduction, and with righteous pleasure comes seduction wearing a halo. Our diagnosis explains away Republican successes while convincing us and our fellow liberals that we hold the moral high ground. Our diagnosis tells us that we have nothing to learn from other ideologies, and it blinds us to what I think is one of the main reasons that so many Americans voted Republican over the last 30 years: they honestly prefer the Republican vision of a moral order to the one offered by Democrats. To see what Democrats have been missing, it helps to take off the halo, step back for a moment, and think about what morality really is.

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The Democrats must find a way to close the sacredness gap that goes beyond occasional and strategic uses of the words "God" and "faith." But if Durkheim is right, then sacredness is really about society and its collective concerns. God is useful but not necessary. The Democrats could close much of the gap if they simply learned to see society not just as a collection of individuals — each with a panoply of rights - but as an entity in itself, an entity that needs some tending and caring. Our national motto is e pluribus unum ("from many, one"). Whenever Democrats support policies that weaken the integrity and identity of the collective (such as multiculturalism, bilingualism, and immigration), they show that they care more about pluribus than unum. They widen the sacredness gap.

A useful heuristic would be to think about each issue, and about the Party itself, from the perspective of the three Durkheimian foundations. Might the Democrats expand their moral range without betraying their principles? Might they even find ways to improve their policies by incorporating and publicly praising some conservative insights?

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If Democrats want to understand what makes people vote Republican, they must first understand the full spectrum of American moral concerns. They should then consider whether they can use more of that spectrum themselves. The Democrats would lose their souls if they ever abandoned their commitment to social justice, but social justice is about getting fair relationships among the parts of the nation. This often divisive struggle among the parts must be balanced by a clear and oft-repeated commitment to guarding the precious coherence of the whole. America lacks the long history, small size, ethnic homogeneity, and soccer mania that holds many other nations together, so our flag, our founding fathers, our military, and our common language take on a moral importance that many liberals find hard to fathom.

Unity is not the great need of the hour, it is the eternal struggle of our immigrant nation. The three Durkheimian foundations of ingroup, authority, and purity are powerful tools in that struggle. Until Democrats understand this point, they will be vulnerable to the seductive but false belief that Americans vote for Republicans primarily because they have been duped into doing so.

http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge256.html#haidt

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The question in the first paragraph has certainly baffled me, for one... why Repubs vote against their own clear interest so reliably?

The whole article is very long, but I think Heidt's onto something. The critiques after the article are raise good points too.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:16 AM
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1. I can give you a quick summary of all that:
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:17 AM by Wetzelbill
Because they are either ignorant, an asshole or both.

on edit:

Crazy. I forgot to add crazy.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:30 AM
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3. A whole bunch of ignorance
and the belief (pounded into their brains by right wing radio) that intellectual curiousity is only for evil liberals.

If I may: BAT SHIT CRAZY
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:17 AM
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2. A mixed bag of answers, to me- FEAR - "values" (whatever that is to them)...prejudice...
superiority drummed into many of them by their so-called religions. The need to be told what to do and how to think (authoritarianism).
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:39 AM
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4. So, they're not ignorant,
stupidity is in their genes. This confirms what I've long suspected: I despise these people on a genetic level. It really is good versus evil. They are the Nephilim's spawn.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:41 AM
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5. Why do married people vote republican
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 10:42 AM by Juche
The marriage gap in voting between singles and married people is huge. There is about a 35 point gap between single and married people, with singles prefering dems by an average of 15-20 points and marrieds preferring republicans by 15-20 points


http://www.gallup.com/poll/107506/Typical-Marriage-Gap-Evident-Early-2008-Vote.aspx

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/21/1212838.aspx

I never understood that. I think that when people get divorced and go back to being single they become dems again. It could be economic insecurity, I really don't know.

single women will make up about 1/4 of the electorate in this election. Assuming the Palin gimmick doesn't work, they could really help the democrats out.

Yet another reason to be a democrat. The GOP is a sausage fest. It is full of men, married women and people over 50. Most of the hot, young, single women are democrats.
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:59 AM
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6. They're infants, incapable of living with uncertainty or delaying
gratification. They see the left as trying to take away all the things that bring them pleasure, like their guns, *their* plastic fantastic Jesus who fulfills their every need, their heroes, their tax money. They are incapable of seeing the greater good for the greater dynamic, because it's just not in them to grow up and see beyond their own needs.

It all hit me one day years ago when Rush was fuming about the "Libruls" trying to take away his movie popcorn because the palm oil was unhealthy. He sounded like a two-year-old throwing a tantrum - but this resonates well with the base, because that's where they live.

So forget trying to cause them any introspection by viewing ads about killing wolves from airplanes "cause that's a lot of fun and real easy," or telling them their Caribou Barbie is not ready to be president, "cause she's a good mommy to go with their McCain daddy." :puke:
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 11:58 AM
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7. They are more self-centered
The world outside their immediate family exists merely to serve them.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:14 PM
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8. I think its the way Repubs talk to people
They use short one line phrases that plays on people's fears, hatred and prejudices.
"War on Terra."
"Death Tax"
"They will raise your taxes."
"A noun a verb and 9/11."
"Country First."
They use short simple phrases that low info voters remember and latch on to. They are simple and don't need any explaination futher than the one line catvh phrase.
Bill Clinton was a master at winning the hearts and minds of people. He countered the one liners with his own. Obama and the rest of us Dems needs to get our own one-liners out there and pound the American people over the head with them.
We can counter the "Death Tax" by calling it what it is the "Paris Hilton Tax".
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 12:54 PM
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9. three words:
fear, greed, ignorance
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:53 PM
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17. We have a winner! eom
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 02:22 PM
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10. Republicans are hard wired in their brains differently from 80% of the rest of us
Edited on Fri Sep-12-08 02:23 PM by Phred42
They can't help it - they just are.

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith

Republicans are not wired for empathy - they cannot relate until it jumps up and bites them in their own personal ass. Then they recognize a problem but cannot bring themselves to change their thinking on the issues because THEY HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED NOT TO so they find a way to blame someone else. Politically THEIR PROGRAMMING tells them that that is the Left so they don't have to think about it any further.

They ARE truly and actually, emotionally DAMAGED individuals. They need help but cannot be trusted to be in control of much of anything.


Read:

The Authoritarians
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

and John Dean

Understanding the Contemporary Republican Party: Authoritarians Have Taken Control Part One in a Three-Part Series

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070905.html

Why Authoritarians Now Control the Republican Party: The Rise of Authoritarian Conservatism Part Two in a Three-Part Series
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070921.html

The Impact of Authoritarian Conservatism On American Government: Part Three in a Three-Part Series
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070925.html

and of course John Deans Book: Conservatives Without Conscience
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:59 PM
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11. Good stuff
I like Altemeyer's and Dean's stuff alot on the psychology of conservatism. However I personally do not know if that is the ground troops of the GOP or just the leaders. I think it is likely that authoritarianism & fear (of change, uncertainty & physical threats) are the mentality of conservatives.

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/07/22_politics.shtml

Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

Fear and aggression

Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity

Uncertainty avoidance

Need for cognitive closure

Terror management


Ten meta-analytic calculations performed on the material - which included various types of literature and approaches from different countries and groups - yielded consistent, common threads, Glaser said.

The avoidance of uncertainty, for example, as well as the striving for certainty, are particularly tied to one key dimension of conservative thought - the resistance to change or hanging onto the status quo, they said.

The terror management feature of conservatism can be seen in post-Sept. 11 America, where many people appear to shun and even punish outsiders and those who threaten the status of cherished world views, they wrote.

Concerns with fear and threat, likewise, can be linked to a second key dimension of conservatism - an endorsement of inequality, a view reflected in the Indian caste system, South African apartheid and the conservative, segregationist politics of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-South S.C.).

Disparate conservatives share a resistance to change and acceptance of inequality, the authors said. Hitler, Mussolini, and former President Ronald Reagan were individuals, but all were right-wing conservatives because they preached a return to an idealized past and condoned inequality in some form. Talk host Rush Limbaugh can be described the same way, the authors commented in a published reply to the article.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:08 PM
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22. The original article isn't easy reading, but well worth the effort
if you find this stuff interesting, as I do.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 05:42 PM
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21. you might like this one too


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term= I'm+all+right+Jack!

You have to copy and past it because I can't make a clickable link out of it nohow because of that danged apostrophe. It's this, anyhow:

I'm all right Jack!

(originally: "Fuck you, Jack, I'm all right!!" - described the bitter dismay of sailors ("jacks") returning home after wartime in the Navy to find themselves not treated as patriots or heroes, but ignored / sneered at by a selfish, complacent, get-ahead society - phrase was subsequently toned down for acceptable general use.)

Attitude of "every man for himself, survival of the fittest, devil take the hindmost", ... but also, that all the possible advantages (however gained), success (however won) and satisfaction (whatever the cost to others) belong to me first!" Narrow-focus, narrow-gauge pseudo-Darwinian selfishness glorified as a sensible philosophy of society and life.


btw: John Kenneth Galbraith ... a great Canadian. ;)



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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 12:08 PM
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12. I think it's just out of pure hateful nationalism.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:41 PM
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13. gross cognitive dissonance
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 05:47 PM
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14. Johnson lost us the south when supported civil rights for blacks
It is racism. Racism is so ingrained in enough people that we must wait until they and their children die to overcome it. Sorry to be so blunt but that is what I think. Racism is subtly taught from generation to generation and comes out of the fear that African-Americans will do to whites what whites did to coloreds. That is why Obama is so feared. If the economy collapse it will make things worse. We are a very divided country and will remain so for a long time to come. Todays republican has learned to play on the fears of these white folks and are exploiting them for all it is worth. The Palin selection plays right into this groups need to be superior no matter how poor they really are.
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VanillaC Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:15 PM
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15. I wish I knew too...
Edited on Sat Sep-13-08 06:15 PM by VanillaC
Why is it that the Latin community is attracted to the Republican party? I live in Florida and the Cuban Americans are usually largely in favor of the Republican party. They claim that the party "helps them." Please. Just like that Daddy Yankee guy taking McCain's side. What dream world is he living in?! I hope in this election there will be a big change for this state and many others that are still "red.". Florida, let's become a blue state! :D
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:52 PM
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16. Mental Illness and Personality Disorders
Ignorance is no longer a plausible, possible excuse.
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 06:58 PM
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18. It is simple- Mental Illness
Oh- I thought that you were asking us- didn't realize that there was an article. jk
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tucsonlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 07:30 PM
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19. And Why Is It....
....that the overwhelming majority of our finest musicians, writers, poets, artists, comics and actors lean to the left (often far left) side of the political spectrum? And why is it that your average Republican lacks all but the most primitive, juvenile sense of humor?
Or have I just inadvertently defined the word "conservative"?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-08 07:38 PM
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20. Brainwashing by hate radio & Cabal "News"
the average American has no avenue to the truth. If he/she did, Bush would have been in prison 4 years ago, and his entire cabal would be in prison or dead by now. I personally think that we're doomed unless Big Media is burned to the ground, figuratively, very soon. Even having Obama in the WH and a Dem Congress won't solve much if they're attacked for 8 years like Clinton was.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:22 PM
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23. There is going to be so many disillusioned Obama supporters who aren't
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:23 PM by sofedupwithbush
prepared for the shitstorm that the MSM has in store for him if he wins. I, for one, am girded to watch them take him down just as viciously as they did Clinton and Carter, and most assuredly, JFK (and RFK).
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