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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:06 PM
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class consious?

In a photo op taken with a sheet metal worker recently ..It was revealed when Hillary said that she is too out of practice to use a gas pump by herself to the worker who she rode to a gas station with for a photo op.

I gotta wonder....Who pumps her gas for her?
What sort of servant/security detail has been insulating her from doing the stuff we do everyday? WHY?
Pumping gas with armed agents all around is not a BIG RISK. However if she was to pump gas she would be getting her hands dirty.That is not a security crisis.

And whom is paying for this pampering service?

And what the fuck makes anyone think some rich pampered person is president material,if they can't bother to risk to pumping gas, or bother to work a coffee machine by them self? Once the glamor of the photo op wears off , the image is broken and the truth comes out, what do we get? A candidate so pampered she doesn't know how to operate a goddamn gas pump?? WTF??

I don't drive, I never owned a car, in my life. This is because my optic nerves are messed up and so I fail the eye test and I can't get a drivers license.. yet,despite that, I KNOW HOW TO WORK A DAMN GAS PUMP by MYSELF!

I don't pump gas often because I walk everywhere,or bus. But I will offer to pump gas for people offering me a ride if the weather sucks and I throw some bucks tword paying for the gas because I am grateful for the kindness! It doesn't happen often for me but I never FORGOT how to work a gas pump.

And as for operating coffee makers in gas stations,I can usually figure out how it works in five minutes or less.For some reason Hillary was challenged in operating a gas station coffee maker.
I posit it is because of her CLASS.


Some believe Hillary will be a wise president.But I think her CLASS makes her too stupid to break the status quo and change the stranglehold the rich have in policy making in Washington.Because most if not all of them are richer than most of us will ever be.

Just to let you know this isn't about Hillary only, I am sure if I observed Obama in his unscripted times he would not know how to operate some everyday device most of us can operate because he is rich and INSULATED from the lives of the less than prospering too..I'm not bashing a particular candidate here. But I am criticizing their CLASS..

Remember rich boy bush the loser was so mystified by super market price scanners? It was because of his CLASS.. WTF? is it with these over-rich inept politicians? Were they raised in a golden bubble?
Probably.


I would like to see a president candidate for once that ISN'T fucking filthy rich and insulated by money from the way the other majority of us live. I think it would shake up the old money and change the way the majority of the less than rich live for the first time Since FDR and his new deal,that saved the rich from the masses of outraged and exploited poor who suffered in the depression..


I'm tired of these coiffed little pampered poodle candidates that come out, play working class stiff and roll up their $400 dollar designer button down shirt sleeves and parade around for a stupid photo op to send a message to the working class they are just like us and care so much about policies and want to help us,but predictably end up passing legislation that screws over the poor and working class anyway...
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:09 PM
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1. Jeepers. I've never worked
a gas pump, and I'm 62. I go to full service gas stations. Why is this a problem?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:16 PM
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3. In most places down here,
you can't even FIND a full service station.

The point is, if you drive a car, you most likely pump your own gas.

It's possible that Hillary hasn't driven herself in years, though, and if that's the case it's understandable.


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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:45 PM
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6. Why is it understandable?
If she has a drivers license why is she being chauffeured on taxpayer dime for? In other words why is she being exempted from the things most of us do in life for? How does that exemption shape her attitudes and ego?

I don't drive, I walk or bus. If I am offered a ride I offer to pump gas and throw some bucks in for gas.Because I am not exempted from being poor so I don't take a ride offered for granted.

The rich take alot for granted .It shows in their attitudes and insulation..Hillary was rather self absorbed.Oblivious to the guy driving her, it was a opportunity to inflate herself for political purposes. I wonder how that guy felt seeing the fakeness of it all?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:45 PM
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7. Whoa - calm down.
I didn't say it was EXCUSABLE, just understandable that if she hasn't driven herself in quite a while, she might be unfamiliar with newer-model gas pumps, that's all.

Does she have secret service protection for life? I think ex-presidents do, don't know about their spouses. If so, that could explain it, too, and our tax dollars have been paying for that forever.

And I agree, they have NO CLUE what it's like for those of us in the real world - which is evident in her plan to mandate insurance, among other things.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:58 AM
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13. Woah I wasen't upset
when I replied,why are you reading in emotions I don't have regarding this thread for??

I think you need to step back and ask yourself why you need to think I'm upset for..
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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 04:43 AM
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10. yeah,thats what I was thinking-`
they still have full service gas stations? I haven't seen one in years.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:36 PM
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5. Well
Edited on Thu May-01-08 09:38 PM by undergroundpanther
For you you must live in an area that has a rare service gas station.Do you pay extra for the service? Does the gas station attendant do it or your spouse or a hired driver?
What class are you in? That simple fact might have something to do with your response to this.Again maybe not.Depends what class you are in.That's what matters here and how class insulates and shapes attitudes.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:13 PM
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2. I'm not sure if we have full service gas stations anymore in Texas.
I really don't know. It started to change to self-serve back in the 1970s.

Now I'm not sure if you can find somebody to pump your gas.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:34 PM
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4. Well
It's damn rare to see a service gas station. And also why should she be waited on that way by security why can't she pump gas herself,is she too important to do such a humble dirty task? And if it is that way don't you think her CLASS has part to do with her insulated life??

The wealthy do insulate themselves from doing menial or dirty work they hire other people to do it for them and because of that they are out of touch with the reality most of us live with.And this is because of class.

Because of the class,these politicians are in, I don't believe rich politicians are all that invested in helping the poor or working poor.They yammer about the middle class,during election times but do not mention the poor or the working poor,much at all, because the poor and working poor are so far removed from their wealthy kind of people they don't matter. But after election the poor and working poor totally disappear politically ,the middle class is ignored..
And I think it is because the people running are often rich and because of that they are far removed from the way the other half lives. They are insulated.By Class. So we see weird behavior induced by not having to do it them self, like clueless around coffee pots and gas pumps and a fascination with price scanners.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:19 PM
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8. As a former First Lady, she is always accompanied
by Secret Service agents. My guess is that she uses a car service to accommodate them, or that she employs a driver.

In any case, I know quite a few married women whose husbands do the job of seeing that the tanks are always filled and who think they can't do it themselves.

If you're careful, you don't get your hands dirty. I doubt that's the problem. It's just a crisis in confidence caused by a long period of not doing a task.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:23 AM
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9. Gotta somewhat support Hillary on this one....
Although she does come off as a clueless bimbo on the coffee thing...Picture you are a secret service guy and then picture your worst nightmare...the principal you guard will not just stand motionless in public for five minutes,but do so where any passing spark whether caused by a psycho or herself leaves her a smouldering pile of cinders....I'd pump the gas for her too.
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reddconsole Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 07:10 AM
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11. Yeah
She is a former First Lady, and she's somewhat insulated whether she might like it or not. Remember how Bill would jog out in public and then finish off his run with a stop at Mickey Dee's? I would have been pretty nervous for him if I were in his Secret Service detail.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:27 AM
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12. It ought to be a requirement for anyone running for office to live
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:28 AM by NotGonnaTakeIt
...like the rest of us for a few months. No perks, no pampering, live on an average American's salary for that time. Only then will they get a sense of how the rest of us live. And anyone who votes against a minimum wage increase should be required to live on that same minimum wage that they voted against increasing to see how impossible it is to live on said minimum wage. Perhaps only then would they able to get their heads out of their asses and have any idea whatsoever about how the rest of the country lives.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:07 PM
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14. Yeah
I so wish that was true.
BTW ever hear of the food stamp challenge?

Read the responses of the elected officials who dared to take the food stamp challenge,and note how few dared it.

http://www.foodstampchallenge.org/participants.htm
http://foodstampchallenge.typepad.com/

But this week, three more Members of Congress will be partaking in the Food Stamp Challenge and abstaining from pilfering Congressional receptions for free food.

Democratic Reps. Keith Ellison (Minn.), Chris Van Hollen (Md.) and Raúl Grijalva (Ariz.) on Friday became the latest Members to take the challenge, starting a weeklong strict diet in which they will try to live on $21, the average amount food stamp recipients get. Ellison, for one, has a leg up on his colleagues. The only Muslim in Congress already has to experience fasting during the holy season of Ramadan, which began last week, and so far, Ellison spokesman Rick Jauert says he hasn’t heard of his boss having any problems keeping to the limited budget.

While passing on overcooked meatballs might not seem like a hardship, it was only a few months ago that Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) fell off the wagon midway through the challenge. At the time, an HOH tipster reported that Ryan was caught sipping a cup of coffee at Ebenezer’s Coffee House in Capitol Hill, while reportedly wearing a T-shirt promoting the campaign.
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