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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:37 PM
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New Weapon for Crowd Control
http://cbs13.com/national/flashlight.weapon.crowd.2.645991.html
New Weapon Against Terror: A Flashlight?
Brandi Hitt

LOS ANGELES (CBS13) It looks like a normal flashlight, but
Homeland Security has paid close to a million dollars for it. It can stop
you right in your tracks.

Law enforcement is already calling it "controversial."

The point of this device is to disorient you, so we modified the video
when we showed it on air. If you wish to see the unmodified footage of the
device in action, you can click here -- but be warned, you may find the
experience uncomfortable.
http://www.cbs13.com/video/?id=29977@kovr.dayport.com

For riots and chaotic situations, police often use tasers, rubber bullets
and pepper spray to try and control the crowd. But there could soon be a
new weapon in their arsenal: a hi-tech flashlight with a big punch.

"Flashblindness, the 'Oh my gosh this light is really bright, I can't see
anything behind it.' That effect is immediate for everybody," said Bob
Lieberman, president of Intelligent Optical Systems.

Nausea and a feeling of disorientation soon follow. The device is called
the "LED Incapacitator." Intelligent Optical Systems is the company
building it right here in California, thanks to an $800,000 contract from
Homeland Security.

Once Lieberman turned on the Incapacitator for us, we started feeling the
effects. It can be irritating to watch the video, but in person it's even
more stunning.

According to Lieberman, the device flashes LED lights at several specific
frequencies. Before your brain has time to adjust to one frequency, the
Incapacitator flashes another. Add multiple colors and random pulses and
the brain just can't keep up.

"The longer you look at this, the more you don't want to look at it," said
Lieberman. "The closer you are to it, the more intense the effect."

The only ways to escape the effects? "Close your eyes, put your hand up,
turn your head away, all of which will give the user the advantage they
need," said Lieberman.

We wanted to see just how effective the light is, so I tried it out. You
see green, white, and after a while it becomes very blurry. I didn't feel
sick, but I could not tell where the operator was standing at one point.

I also saw blotches in my vision, which stayed with me for about a half
hour after the test. Then, a strong headache kicked in.

David Throckmorton is a Homeland Security program manager in Washington
DC. He says the government would like to arm the Coast Guard, Secret
Service, Border Patrol and Air Marshals with the device.

"It doesn't really do any damage to you," said David. "For them, it would
be a way to stop a terrorist or whoever from advancing."

Commander Sid Hale with the L.A. County Sheriff's Department helped design
the device over the last three years, and says this is something all law
enforcement wants, especially at night and for crowd control, so they
don't have to pull their guns.

"They may be incorporated into existing architecture," said Hale. "If we
have a big jail riot, we just turn out the regular lights and turn on the
flashing lights. This is about the safest thing you can find and still be
considered some type of force. This is about one step above screaming and
yelling at a guy."

Michael Soller with the ACLU says he's concerned.

"Let's not pretend these are anything less than a weapon," said Soller.

His concern is not so much with the device itself, but how officers are
trained to handle it, and if they misuse it.

"Tasers were sold and police officers were trained that they're
nonlethal," said Soller. "We have 300 deaths over the past few years that
show that the claim was not true."

Is there a possibility that someone could go blind from something like this?

"No," said Lieberman. "We've been very careful to design this so the
maximum permissible exposure limit for human eye safety is never
exceeded."

Medical safety tests are already underway, and law enforcement field
trials will likely start later this year.

Could the public get their hands on this?

"Yes, this kind of technology could possibly be useful for someone in a
situation where they're trying to fend off an attacker," said Lieberman.

That's news to Homeland Security. The department says it may be restricted
to just law enforcement. Still, by 2010, Intelligent Optical Systems hopes
to be selling this technology on store shelves.

The whole point of this weapon is to disorient you, and it does. Some are
concerned that if the public will get its hands on this, that means
criminals will too.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:41 PM
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1. Can't wait to get my hands on one of those things
What could possibly go wrong?

:sarcasm:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:55 PM
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7. People with seizure disorder
should probably not go anywhere near riots when these things come into general use.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:45 PM
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2. It can't be worse than a Taser, can it?
At least one can move away from this thing.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:47 PM
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3. Or turn one's head or shield one's eyes
It doesn't seem like that great a weapon to me, it's too easily defeated by simply using one hand to block the light while you advance on the user and prepare to take it away from him.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:28 PM
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15. Covering your eyes
gives the riot guard a chance to advance on you with his truncheon. Avert your eyes and prepare to get clubbed on the head--or at least, that is the theory.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:49 PM
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4. until some ass flashes it at, say, ONCOMING TRAFFIC? Hello?
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM
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5. Flashing LED bus tail lights disorient me
It's really bad. They seem to flash at what I'm presuming to be the refresh rate of human vision.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM
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6. It beats tasers & those painful "targeted noise" machines. . . . n/t
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:32 PM
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8. Having bush in office has had a similar effect on me! n/t
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:42 PM
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9. How long before people start . . .
. . . taking mirrors to demonstrations?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:44 PM
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10. even if these aren't sold to the public someone will reverse engineer them...
...pretty quickly, I think. They can be used on police just as easily as BY police, and any counter measures would work both ways too.
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mrbluto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:54 PM
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11. Uh - This thing is like half of the Bush/Cheney Republican strategy
"The longer you look at this, the more you don't want to look at it," said
Lieberman. "The closer you are to it, the more intense the effect."


That's Bush Defense in a nutshell is you ask me.

Of course they're hoping you deal with it in this manner:

"Close your eyes, put your hand up,
turn your head away, all of which will give the user the advantage they
need," said Lieberman.


We need to do something fast before it's "incorporated into existing architecture,"

Remember Lieberman's last bit there:

"Yes, this kind of technology could possibly be useful for someone in a
situation where they're trying to fend off an attacker," said Lieberman.


Now how loose of a definition of the term "attacker" do you think the Republicans will use if the going gets rough for them?

I bet the term "fend off" will get a bit twisted too.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:31 PM
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12. look at the bright, shiny light-yet another tool of torture from HS
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:32 PM
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13. "Phasers on stun."
!
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citizen4democrats Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:50 PM
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14. Let's stick to guns and the conventional stuff
This is getting scary.
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