"In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom: CIA 'no touch' torture

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makes sense out of mind control allegations" by Cheryl Welsh (January 2008)

Cheryl Welsh is a United Nations recognized expert on "non-lethal" weapons, a human rights activist against tactics and technologies that target the human nervous system and the founder of Mind Justice.org


"After the horrific pictures of prisoners being tortured at Abu Ghraib were displayed in front pages of newspapers around the world, the United States maintained that the U.S. government does not torture, Abu Ghraib was about a few bad officers. Evidence now proves that CIA 'no touch' torture and worse were ordered by the executive branch and approved by top military officers. Surprisingly, this scandal has much in common with another national security issue, neuroweapons, commonly referred to as mind control."

http://www.mindjustice.org/wisdom.htm

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1. A little side post in regards to this article and the national security issue of mind control

the open sources available to anyone interested in this subject are full of disinformation and psychological operations to frustrate, conceal and divert research.

Here are a few links that do contain facts about the history of whatever one terms mind control, brainwashing, perception management, political control, neurobiology/neuroscience etc.

The mind control programs of the CIA began in 1953 and were originally designated with the MK prefix, which signified operations and programs under the direction of the former Technical Services Division/TSD (changed to the Directorate of Science and Technology in 1962), the most widely known as MK ULTRA.

Selections of CIA MKULTRA documents (from cryptome)
http://cryptome.org/mkultra-0001.htm

CIA Inspector General's July 26, 1963 Report (from cryptome)
http://cryptome.org/mkultra-0003.htm

FOIA suits involving MK ULTRA
CIA vs. Sims, 471 U.S. 159 (1985)
http://supreme.justia.com/us/471/159/

Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press 8-19-2002 decision
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2002/0819kellyv.html

CIA Detainee Torture, Memory Loss, and the Bush Administration's Falsification of History (archived leveymg thread started 12-13-2007)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2462592

[Hotler]

40. Thanks Bob, good stuff.....

WOW! this fucking shit is really whacked. I've be reading stuff here and there about corruption & shadow government and mind control is always in the mix. My first bit I think was about the Franklin scandal. What a read Hollywood couldn't write the stuff. It's really creepy too. There was a part in that story where there was reference to Hunter Thompson being the camera guy for a snuff film at the Bohemian Grove, that made me stop and take a breath. Thanks again

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3. great-thanks for posting

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4. Pass it around, katty-it isn't tinfoil at all, is it?

:hi:

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5. Former CIA Director George Tenet made this comment on February 5, 2004

"No one told us what to say or how to say it..." during a quite rare public appearance at Georgetown University.

That is right up there with his "We don't torture..." crap, isn't it?

Kick.

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6. "controlled drowning"-kick

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7. "Truth Serums & Torture" by Martin A. Lee ( Consortium News/June 4, 2002)

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/060402a.html

For accounting purposes drugs were given alphanumeric codes by the CIA.  LSD-25 was designated as EA 1729.

"ARTICHOKE is the Agency cryptonym for the study and/or use of 'special' interrogation methods and techniques.  These 'special' interrogation methods have been known to include the use of drugs and chemicals, hypnosis, and 'total isolation' a form of psychological harassment."

That is the opening paragraph of the Memo below-and these "special" methods were being conducted in the 1950's...

January 31, 1975 Memo on Project ARTICHOKE (PDF from The National Security Archive)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB54/st02.pdf

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9. This just in-the Decider will veto the Senate's ban on "harsh interrogation"...

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12. This is one of the most important articles you will ever read-bttt

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13. Mukasey, Scalia-read this in your 4 cornered room, kick

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14. The Decider has vetoed (veto=latin for "I forbid") the ban on torture-kick

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15. Torture is the law in HOMELAND (tm)...

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16. "Torture harms both victim and perpetrator" by Linda S. Heard (OnlineJournal 3-12-2008)

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3053.shtml

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17. Another kick for the Human Research Subject Protection Act of 1997

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18. This is just as real as the "work" of John Yoo, it needs another kick.

[Mojorabbit]

19. All this

just makes me ill. These people should be behind bars.

[Mnemosyne]

20. Great work, Bob! Horrific was one of the last words

I ever wanted to hear used to describe US policy, though horrid in the past, they are surpassing their own cruelties.

Thanks for this thread!

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21. "Building a Legal Framework for Torture" by Jason Leopold (4-3-2008 Consortium News)

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/040308a.html

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22. "Yoo's Memo Hints at Bush's Secrets" by Jason Leopold (4-6-2008 Consortium News)

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/040608a.html

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23. The Petraeus hearings briefly echoed the "We don't torture" lie today.

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24. "Yoo's on First?" by Ray McGovern (4-10-2008 Consortium News)

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/041008a.html

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25. More confirmation of the facts in what Cheryl Welsh wrote in January

here is the OP link's opening paragraph again with the parts that are now being confirmed by ABC and other MSM soures capitalized

"After the horrific pictures of prisoners being tortured at Abu Ghraib were displayed in front pages of newspapers around the world, the United States maintained that the U.S. government does not torture, Abu Ghraib was about a few bad officers. EVIDENCE NOW PROVES THAT CIA 'NO TOUCH' TORTURE AND WORSE WERE ORDERED BY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH and approved by top military officers. Surprisingly, this scandal has much in common with another national security issue, neuroweapons, commonly referred to as mind control."

Thank you, again, Cheryl!

[bobthedrummer]

26. Cryptome linked to an ACLU document pdf under the heading

"Yoo Army Torture memo", so here it is with its official title:

"Memorandum for William J. Haynes II, General Counsel of the Department of Defense-March 14, 2003
Re: Military Interrogation of Alien Unlawful Combatants Held Outside the United States"
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/yoo_army_torture_memo.pdf

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27. It's too late to edit that post-the ACLU pdf doc address has changed

here is the right one

"March 14, 2003 Memorandum for William J. Haynes II, General Counsel for the Department of Defense
Re: Military Interrogation of Alien Unlawful Combatants Held Outside the United States"
http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/safefree/yoo_army_torture_memo.pdf

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30. "Torture victim's records lost at Guantanamo, admits camp general" by Elana Schor

(4-21-2008 Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/21/guantanamo.humanrights

Sure, blame the CCTV system...
:puke::argh:

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31. Seems like there has been a systemic attempt at "losing" documentation of BFEE's TORTURE. n/t

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34. "Electromagnetic Aspect of Mind Control: A Scientific Analysis" by Vladimir N. Binhi (June 2007)

No touch/neuroweapons (EM directed energy) torture related article from a prominent Russian scientist.

http://www.mindjustice.org/binhi.htm

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36. Back to the top...

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37. kick

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38. A "Shock Doctrine" kick...

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