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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:52 PM
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This is the sort of stuff Obama and supporters will have to overcome.
While I was in the doctor's office yesterday a man told me that he would not vote for Obama because he (Obama) would not put his hand on the Bible when he took the oath of office for the Senate and that he did not put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem is played. I tried to tell him he was wrong but actually I had not heard these things. I did say that I didn't think religion had a place in the electoral process but of course it has and does. But check this out...

As he reminded us again after losing narrowly to Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, Barack Obama likes to evoke Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech.

We must all hope that, like King's, Mr. Obama's dream is "deeply rooted in the American dream." But before giving him the keys to the White House, Americans might like to know a little more about the content of Mr. Obama's dream.

Let me propose an unlikely place to start looking: Kenya. Even in the midst of the primaries, the horrific scenes from that country since the disputed election on December 27 will not have escaped most people. In particular, the burning of a church with up to 50 men, women, and children inside, while machete-armed mobs slaughter up to 600 more people, have evoked memories of the Rwandan genocide of 1994
http://www.nysun.com/article/69273?page_no=1
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:53 PM
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1. They each have misinformation being spread around about them. It's vile. nt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:54 PM
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2. They can't openly say it is because he's black...so they hang their hats on shit
that is totally wrong.

And they don't want to hear how wrong they are.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:21 PM
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4. I find the church stuff really odd.
Since I am a member of the United Church of Christ. Frankly it is about the oldest church in this country or comes from it. I am sure we do not call for praying 4 times a day. Not that I think calling to pray is any odder than ringing a bell. Sounds like something Rush would say. Yet their are people who believe it is not a Christian church he is a member of. It is also a hard church to find in the South or was when I lived in the South. All I could ever get from people was that it was a black church. Must be one in every town in NE as far as I can tell. I did not even know a church had a color until I went South. That was a long time ago, back when King was still alive. I keep hoping that stuff just goes away but it just keeps going from father to son. Some day it will die out.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:56 PM
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7. If I'm not mistaken, the United Church of Christ has its roots in the
Congregational Church which can trace its American roots back to the early colonies in New England. But the Episcopal Church (which has its roots in the Church of England) has been here even longer, dating back to Jamestown, Virginia. And then of course there is the Catholic Church which dates back still further, having established itself in Florida, the Southwest and California more than a hundred and fifty years earlier under Spain.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 AM
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9. Course it is all a line right out of the Catholic Church.
I do not think James town stuck. It just did not last but the early NE people where here for good and so was the church they came under and by the way hoped it would be THE church. It also, if I re-call my history, out of middle England and many left for Holland to stay safe.Since they wanted to stay English they finally left Holland or some did. The rest just faded into being Dutch. That church has feed many of our churches that are still around to day. Many of the Congregations jointed together and made up the United Church of Christ but some still will not join. My mother's church would not join yet the church I used to go to did. Obama's church calls them self a member of the United Church of Christ. I am willing to think that the South was more a Church of England back ground. Just the way the South was settled would leave me to think that any how.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:26 AM
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8. Yep. It's the code that has arisen out of so-called "political correctness"
For many people like that, it doesn't matter. They will say in private "I'm not voting for an African-American (and we all know, in private, what the word will be)."

In public they will hang their hat on bullshit so they don't have to say what they're thinking.

Not all, but most who say shit like this, IMHO.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:13 PM
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3. Sounds lilke someone that wouldn't vote Dem anyway n/t
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:33 PM
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6. No, he said he voted for Gore and was mad because, as he put it,
his vote didn't count. And I guess he was correct.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:21 PM
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5. Of course, that's just an excuse for racism
Take it away and they'll just use another one.

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