The Hillary Effect (The Real Reason The Polls Were Wrong?)

[ihavenobias]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-hillary-effect_b_80828.html

The Bradley Effect is a well-known political phenomenon where voters say they will vote for a black candidate to a pollster and then turn around and vote the other way when they are alone in the voting booth.

Today, a caller on our show made a great point as to why Hillary might have won in New Hampshire despite the fact that polls showed her losing by 10 points - the Hillary Effect.

She said a lot of people don't want to say they are supporting Hillary Clinton because it is an unpopular thing to say and causes harsh reactions. So, they keep quiet about their support but vote for her anyway.

Then, we received this e-mail from Dawn, another closeted Hillary supporter:

"I have been supporting Hillary, and having to apologize for it, for a year. I can easily see myself being vague about it when asked by a pollster, but in the privacy of my voting booth I will vote for her enthusiastically."

There you have it. The Hillary Effect. This could easily be one of the contributing factors...(for the entire article including hyperlinks, please click the link at the top)

[libbygurl]

1. Is this a genuine, or a satirical post by Cenk?

No, seriously. Sometimes I can't tell the diff anymore, in this Mad-What Me Worry?-kind of world we live in here in the USA.

[ihavenobias]

2. Serious

PS---Right now at www.theyoungturks.com they're replaying the show from earlier today. He just got done saying (paraphrase):

'Look, maybe the real answer here is that people in New Hampshire just liked Hillary better and thought she was the best candidate. Maybe it's just not as complicated as we've been making it.'

I think he's been very fair to Hillary. She's not his favorite candidate (by a long shot) but he defends her against BS attacks that aren't related to substantive issues. That's my position as well. I really do not like her as a candidate compared to the others, but I also have no patience for attacks on her gender, her laugh, her tipping (or not tipping), etc.

EDIT: At any rate, I think there might be *something* to the Hillary effect. After all, I see there are people leaving DU because they think there is so much hate (he's a HRC supporter).

[libbygurl]

3. Well, that's an interesting phenomenon. And yes, the little I've heard and read from

Cenk shows he's a fair-minded kind of guy.

Wonder if the Hillary Effect will be operational in other states as well? Wonder if that played a part in Hillary's loss in the transparent Iowa caucus, too?

[ihavenobias]

6. Another interesting point

And there's the speculation that the caucus setting helped Obama...of course it's all speculation.

[AX10]

4. HILLARY was deamonized by the right wing hate machine.

That hate is still felt today. FDR, the Kennedy's, you name it, they are all hated because of the right wing propaganda machine.

[ihavenobias]

5. The clip below

talks about some of that Hillary hate, if you haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmM2j8P55SA

PS---I think ALL of the candidates have been slammed, and the frontrunner takes the brunt of the beating. This has been going on for some time...

http://foxattacks.com/blog/22158-fox-attacks-edwards-and-obama

[ingac70]

7. Some folks don't like to openly admit....

they support DLCers....

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=85&subid=108&contentid=253475

[JTFrog]

8. Ah you mean there are repercussions for supporting

a candidate running on a policy of Profit Trumps Healthcare, Profit Trumps Domestic Jobs, Power Trumps Peace??

Say it isn't so.... :eyes:

[ihavenobias]

9. I wasn't sure what you were trying to say until

I saw the emiticon. ;)