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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:44 AM
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Salon.com - Neocons go nutzoid!

Salon.com - Neocons go nutzoid!


Undaunted by the Iraq debacle, uber-hawks David Frum and Richard Perle air their fevered wet dream of a national-security superstate that slaps down uppity Muslims, bombs North Korea, slices and dices civil liberties and scatters the Palestinians like birdseed.


By Gary Kamiya


Jan. 30, 2004 | Forget "The Tell-Tale Heart." Put down "The Shining." Retire that dog-eared copy of H.P. Lovecraft's "The Lurking Fear." If you really want to feel the cold fingers of fear running up and down your spine, pick up David Frum and Richard Perle's "An End to Evil: How to Win the War on Terror." It's the scariest book since the novel Saddam Hussein reportedly wrote while his underlings pretended to work on those nonexistent weapons-of-mass-destruction-related program activities -- you remember, the ones the authors and their friends in the White House used to justify invading Iraq.

"An End to Evil" is like Bush on crack. It's a kind of neocon orgy, a Bohemian Grove weekend for militaristic moralists, a chance to get naked and do tribal, Lord of the Flies dances -- "Invade Iran! Kill Yasser! Drink Kim's blood!" But if its recommendations are a little too extreme even for the George W. Bush-Dick Cheney-Paul Wolfowitz tetrarchy, its underlying worldview is identical to theirs. It's a kind of CAT scan of the Bush administration's collective brain, an entity so weird it should be cryogenically frozen so future scientists can study it. Frum, a former Bush speechwriter and author of a recent encomium to his ex-boss, presumably represents the right brain, glibly spinning and selling, while neocon guru Richard Perle provides the left-hemisphere gray matter. With its trademarked combination of chipper propaganda, bullying bluster, intellectual dishonesty and radical policy prescriptions, "An End to Evil" offers a guided tour of the mind of George W. Bush, as filtered through the higher-grade neurons of its authors.

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And invading Iran would exacerbate the worsening political crisis in Iraq, where the Bush administration is desperately running again to the despised United Nations to bail out the U.S. plan for rigged elections, which were put in place to prevent an Iranian-style theocratic Shiite state emerging. Typically, Perle and Frum, who wax eloquent about bringing democracy to the Arab world, have not a word to say about this -- although every knowledgeable commentator warned of this danger before the invasion. (Similarly, they make much of their concern for the woeful plight of women in the Arab world, but ignore the fact that women in Iraq now face the likelihood of being forced to live under Islamic law -- a fate they escaped under Saddam's secular regime, dreadful as it was.) It is not even likely to whack little Syria, which poses no conceivable threat to the U.S.

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http://www.salon.com/books/review/2004/01/30/frum_perle/index.html

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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:54 AM
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1. well, it's official...

We're Nazi Germany now... just invade whoever we want, sell it to the people as protecting them.....

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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 11:55 AM
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2. David Frum
is a sycophant. I loathe sycophants. As far as I'm
concerned, he's a giant embarrassment to Canada.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:30 PM
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5. He's an embarrassment to all humanity.
Don't worry. Nobody blames Canada for Frum. He embarrasses our species, not just your nation.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 08:54 PM
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16. Yes, I think of him as f***ing a**hole
not Canadian.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:01 PM
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3. Send these two jagoffs to the front.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:06 PM
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4. Perpetual Foreign Policy for Perpetual War.
Men in suits who have never served in a military capacity are so brave.
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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 12:42 PM
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6. An effective rebuttal of the NeoCon slanderous attacks on Democrats:

No, "some Democrats" (actually at least half the population of the country, with that number likely to rise every day) are not "losing their nerve for the fight." They realize that fighting terrorism is necessary. They realize it sometimes may even require military action to take out a rogue state that shelters international terrorists, as was the case with Afghanistan. But they simply don't accept the Bush administration's infinitely expansive definition of the war on terror. They believe that Bush unforgivably squandered the outpouring of support for the U.S. after 9/11. They believe that international alliances and diplomacy are good for this country, not bad. They believe that Saddam Hussein was a terrible tyrant, but that he did not represent a threat to the U.S., and that the Bush administration cooked the intelligence to justify a war that neocons like Perle and Wolfowitz had been advocating for years. They believe that invading Iraq was a risky distraction that actually weakened the real war on terror, which is against al-Qaida. And they believe that by treating every problematic nation as an enemy in a hysterical war against an abstract entity, and treating every movement that uses terror as if it were al-Qaida, the Bush administration is actually making the world, and America, much less safe.

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http://www.salon.com/books/review/2004/01/30/frum_perle/index.html
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 10:14 PM
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14. Ha! I wish to god it were legal to fight these guys the way we should
but unfortunately it isn't.

I'm a democrat and I'll fight any day of the week.

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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 01:34 PM
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7. Free Salon Day Pass:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:04 PM
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8. Frum and Perle "higher-grade nuerons"??? LMAO !!!!
Pair of fatuous scumbags.

:puke:
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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:11 PM
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9. Only compared to the moronic chimp! (Hell, W may not even have a brain)
:dem:
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southern_progressive Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 03:58 PM
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10. Talk about Nutzoid! Did you see this jerk from Mississippi?
Man, he went on national TV and made fun of all the Howard
Dean supporters. What a jerk. Check out the link to his
interview w/John Gibson on "The Big Story."

http://auburn.rivals.com/uploads/884/137141.wmv
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:32 PM
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11. Title should be "Evil without End"
This is the Neo Cons "Mein Kampft". Though it is refreshing to actually read a little honesty coming out of the NeoCon Cabal. The fact that this book represents a probable action plan is the scariest thing of all. Is it possible that these criminals will ever face the punishment they deserve?

Who is the real war criminal? Who are the real terrorists? Its the authors of this atrocity!
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StlMo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 05:38 PM
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12. This and PNAC provide a clear picture of the NeoCons' evil plans.
Edited on Fri Jan-30-04 05:41 PM by StlMo

Will the Bushies ever be punished for their crimes? -

We can only hope so (and do our best to drive them from power).

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Snappy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:17 PM
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13. Terrorism
"They realize that fighting terrorism is necessary."

Yes. It is the most necessary thing we can do.

Fight the Neo Fascists.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 12:09 AM
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15. I read this today
It's very scary. The best news in it is that Mr. Kamiya believes the book will have "a short shelf life."

Meanwhile, we must bear in mind that Richard Perle is one of the most influential men in Washington. The thought that he could pen such nonsense as Kamiya reports is truly horrifying.
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