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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:58 PM
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Forcing them to filibuster: what it's ultimately about
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Forcing them to filibuster: what it's ultimately about


By Rick Perlstein on July 18, 2007 - 11:36am.
Now: veterans of remarkable courage bear witness to the atrocities they committed in Iraq.

Lieutenant Jonathan Morgenstein, 35, of Arlington, Virginia, Marine Corps civil affairs unit:


"We were approaching this one house... and we're approaching, and they had a family dog. And it was barking ferociously, cause it's doing its job. And my squad leader, just out of nowhere, just shoots it... So I see this dog - I'm a huge animal lover... this dog has, like, these eyes on it and he's running around spraying blood all over the place. And like, you know, what the hell is going on? The family is sitting right there, with three little children and a mom and a dad, horrified. And I'm at a loss for words."


Specialist Jeff Englehart, 26, of Grand Junction, Colorado, 3rd Brigade, 1st Infantry:


"They open the body bags of these prisoners that were shot in the head and got a spoon. He's reaching in to scoop out some of his brain, looking at the camera and smiling."


Specialist Aidan Delgado, 25, of Sarasota, Florida, 320th Military Police Company:

"The car was approaching what was in my opinion a very poorly marked checkpoint... and probably didn't even see the soldiers... The guys got spooked and decided it was a possible threat, so they shot up the car. And they literally sat in the car for the next three days while we drove by them."


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Then: veterans of remarkable courage bear witness to the atrocities they committed in Vietnam.

Scott Camil, 1st Battalion, 11th Marines, attached to the 1st Battalion, 1st Marines

"They spread-eagled her and shoved an E-tool up her vagina, an entrenching tool, and she was still asking for water. And then they took that out and they used a tree limb and then she was shot."


Scott Keyes, Spec. 4 when I was assigned to "E" Troop, 1st Cav., Americal Division:


"There were some fishermen out on the ocean and a couple of our sergeants thought it would be good sport to use them as target practice. So they swung their 50 calibers around and they just shot the shit out of them, for no reason, I guess."


Jon Drolshagen, S-5 with the Civic Action Program in Vietnam:


"The major that I worked for had a fantastic capability of staking prisoners, utilizing a knife that was extremely sharp, and sort of filleting them like a fish. You know, trying to check out how much bacon he could make of a Vietnamese body to get information. Prisoners treated this way were executed at the end because there was no way that we could take them into any medical aide and say, "This dude fell down some steps," or something, because you just don't get them kind of cuts and things like that."

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:00 PM
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1. And then these soldiers will come home.
And we are completely unprepared for that.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:13 PM
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2. Thinkin' that is part of GOP plan: Keep them over there until the odds run out and they die
so the GOP doesn't have to deal with them here.

People are not human beings to the party of the war profiteers, just a means to an end. People, ours, theirs, are just grist for the mill that turns blood into gold for the privileged few (and their offspring who will never know the horrors of war).
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 05:00 PM
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3. None of theirs are in this war.
Oh, there might be some who vote Republican, but those poor fools aren't theirs. Theirs are the "have and the have mores." There are no "have mores" in uniform.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:02 AM
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5. and have them handle some depleted uranium so they won't be telling stories in 20 years
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 09:37 PM
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4. Ugh.
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